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    Hallo all,
    I am in the market, but the budget is small. I arrange by increasing price, and don't scroll very far until my budget is reached..... So my question is, what is the maximum mileage you would consider on 2nd hand vehicle. I am looking at Hilux d/cab, Navara, Isuzu, and somehow Subaru Forester has reached my shortlist. To be fair I then have to consider Fortuner as well.

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    Default Re: Highest mileage you would buy a 2nd hand vehicle

    Not really giving an answer to your question but rather something to consider - I would rather buy something with twice the mileage if I new the previous owner looked after iy and serviced it properly. Mileage on the clock can be deceiving.
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    Default Re: Highest mileage you would buy a 2nd hand vehicle

    Quote Originally Posted by Bester View Post
    Not really giving an answer to your question but rather something to consider - I would rather buy something with twice the mileage if I new the previous owner looked after iy and serviced it properly. Mileage on the clock can be deceiving.
    100% a properly serviced vehicle with 200k on is much better than a 100k that has not
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    Quote Originally Posted by driesl View Post
    Hallo all,
    I am in the market, but the budget is small. I arrange by increasing price, and don't scroll very far until my budget is reached..... So my question is, what is the maximum mileage you would consider on 2nd hand vehicle. I am looking at Hilux d/cab, Navara, Isuzu, and somehow Subaru Forester has reached my shortlist. To be fair I then have to consider Fortuner as well.
    Forrester: You will possibly get them just shy of 200k km because they need to get a cambelt at 200k km at a cost of R16k. But you see them running at up to 500k km. Just steer clear of the Turbo models (I heard) They are quite reliable I heard. When I was shopping I test drove one, and they are very well built.

    Navara, Isuzu, Hilux...If diesel, I'd try and get them (if possible) under 250k km. But petrol I'd go a bit higher, due to my specific situation. I can possibly overhaul an engine for around R15k but if you add the R30k odd for dieselpump and injectors...I can't afford that. But my situation is unique.
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    Default Re: Highest mileage you would buy a 2nd hand vehicle

    For petrol vehicles 125k km is what I aim for, for diesel its always a gamble if you don't have a full service history but 100 k km is also good..

    I've never ever bought a new car and once bought I drive them till they're dead, 300k km+..Currently Renault petrol 200k km on it.. Usual maintenance only..

    Past: Renault petrol, 350 00 km on it, Mazda 626 400 000 km on it....

    I've even bought on auctions, 30-40% less than trade if you're lucky..Ranger diesel 60 000 km,now on 90 k km..
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    I bought an Audi on 242 k from a forum member, and confirmed the sale before driving, when we had barely left the airport with him driving.

    HOWEVER, I could immediately see that I was dealing with someone who took great pride and care of his vehicles and possessions, a fact confirmed at his house.

    I bought the vehicle knowing that I would be spending money on some things, and I was happy with that.

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    Full service history is the first thing.
    general condition is the second thing.

    I bought a Land Rover 110 V8 with 300,000kms on it once. Modern petrol engines can do amazing distances if serviced properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    Forrester: You will possibly get them just shy of 200k km because they need to get a cambelt at 200k km at a cost of R16k. But you see them running at up to 500k km. Just steer clear of the Turbo models (I heard) They are quite reliable I heard. When I was shopping I test drove one, and they are very well built.

    Navara, Isuzu, Hilux...If diesel, I'd try and get them (if possible) under 250k km. But petrol I'd go a bit higher, due to my specific situation. I can possibly overhaul an engine for around R15k but if you add the R30k odd for dieselpump and injectors...I can't afford that. But my situation is unique.
    Ja, from 2011 the normal petrol engines were changed to timing chain. The turbo version still has a belt.

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    Default Re: Highest mileage you would buy a 2nd hand vehicle

    difficult to say.
    will this be your daily drive?
    what sort of mileage do you do?
    do you have another car, should something break?

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    Quote Originally Posted by driesl View Post
    Ja, from 2011 the normal petrol engines were changed to timing chain. The turbo version still has a belt.
    I was very surprised to see on Fuelly that the 2.5 NA Forrester can quite easily get under 10L/100km, which is incredible. The Subaru Boxer engines are very good, manual gearbox also good. I'm not sure about their automatic boxes though, I saw a guy mention R45k to rebuild one on his Forrester.

    They probably use Asin auto boxes?

    This may be a daft question but if you drive moderately can having a turbo on the boxer engine help with fuel economy or is the Subaru turbo system only tuned for performance?

    Can you remap a Subaru for better fuel economy, both with a fuel curve and how the turbo spools up?

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    Subarus use a CVT instead of an automatic box. Some people don't like them but I really enjoyed mine on my outback.
    I do believe they're expensive if they go wrong however, as you mentioned.

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    I don't think the number of k's on a clock is indicative of the overall condition of the vehicle, there is a whole lot more to it.

    I bought a 1984 BMW 320i in 2010 with only 142k on the clock, the endless problems I had were unbelievable. Swambo had a 1999 Ford Escort diesel in Belgium which we sold in 2014 with only 160k on its clock. Both cars did way too much standing.

    I've also driven younger vehicles with 600k plus on their clocks that still look and go like new.

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    I drive a car with 300k km on the clock. It is a company car which I drove from new (2011 2.0 D-4D Corolla). Full service history and well looked after, according to me at least. Interior and body is still in good nick. It rarely dropped below 20 km/L and with 300 NM of torque is fun to drive from time to time.

    The mechanical bits are showing some signs of wear though and this is what is going to cost you money. The injectors probably needs replacement at say R8k a pop. Clutch is still original but also would need replacement at around R15k the last time I checked. Discs are still the original ones so add at least R8k to replace it. Steering rack is worn and noisy but I can still live with it. So that is a quick R55000 to get it in fairly good condition and if nothing else fails, eg the turbo, you would have a brilliant OR Tambo bridge missile.

    So the only way of making it worth the while is if you get the car at a really low price. In my case I reckon not more than R40k to make it worth the while. Unfortunately dealers will charge you close to double that amount and for that R135k you are better off with a lower mileage slightly more expensive car.

    So the bottom line is to get the high mileage car with a full service history at a rock bottom price. Even if it is a Toyota they will cost you a bucket load at high mileage.
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    As many forum members pointed out, it comes down how vehicle was maintained up to the milage that is currently on.
    Many years ago we bought 260E Mercedes Manual, from its original owner with 490000km on the odometer.
    It was faultless.
    Few years back we both another E280, again from its first owner, with 280000km, car was incredible.
    I still remember that carpets were like brand new as previous owners had custom set made to cover most of the surface area including the driveshaft tunnel at the back.

    Low mileage in old cars can be a problem, especially mechanically.
    I own few classic cars, with very low miles, and they had number of issues due to standing for long periods of time.
    Fuel pumps, fuel injectors, fuel tanks, brakes, radiators etc.

    Subarus are great, but there isn't much of an aftermarket support in our country, meaning you have to pay dealer prices for replacement parts.
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    Thank you for all the great answers.

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    Probably the lowest risk car is one that also has been serviced by agents after maintenance plan, I'd buy at 200 k+ km, but they usually come at a premium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by driesl View Post
    Hallo all,
    I am in the market, but the budget is small. I arrange by increasing price, and don't scroll very far until my budget is reached..... So my question is, what is the maximum mileage you would consider on 2nd hand vehicle. I am looking at Hilux d/cab, Navara, Isuzu, and somehow Subaru Forester has reached my shortlist. To be fair I then have to consider Fortuner as well.
    Looking at mileage only is like marrying someone who you only know by name: looking for trouble. If all mileage was done on the open road and maintenance was good, mileage is irrelevant, however, if used mainly for short trips and poor maintenance, stay away!

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    I bought a x1 owner 2006 Hilux DC 4.0 V6 with 270,000km on the clock in early 2016 for R140,000. I could tell the owner had taken a lot of pride in his vehicle and had been regularly serviced.

    Kept the vehicle for 3 years, put another 100,000km on the clock, during which only minor repairs and tyres replaced. Serviced with best quality synthetic oil every 5-8000km, lots of love. Sold for R120,000 with 370,000km on clock just 3 months ago (back overseas).

    Would buy a high mileage TOYOTA in a heart beat - if there was evidence previous owner had looked after vehicle properly.
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    Bought my Hilux on 340k km, now almosty on 500k km

    It depends on the vehicle and what you want to use it for, some brands I will not even buy on 50k km and some I will buy on 400k km

    Don't know the Subaru's reliability that well to comment on them. Look at availability of spares and cost of spares and search the internet for common Subaru problems.

    Then again if the price is right (huge bargain), you can buy just about anything and sell it again if you don't like it.
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    I was in the same situation, relatively small budget, so I looked at buying a high km diesel, with possible high maintenance knocks, or a lower km petrol, where I pay the price at the pumps , but most likely, will see very few maintenace issues.
    Because I only do about 500km commuting per month to work and back, I bought 2011 Hilux V6, with 120k on the clock. It has given me no issues over the last couple of years and overall petrol consumption is at 7,3km/l, exactly the same as my previous 2,7 VVTi.

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