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    What is the best product option available?

    With various options available what has been your installation of choice? And why?

    If vehicle specific, mine is a 2018 Ford Everest 3.2 Ltd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrek View Post
    What is the best product option available?

    With various options available what has been your installation of choice? And why?

    If vehicle specific, mine is a 2018 Ford Everest 3.2 Ltd.
    I bought an Idrive unit, worked really well until it got a mind of its own. It was only installed for 3 hours...
    I was cruising along at 70km/h, when all of a sudden the vehicle dropped two gears and went flat out. I jumped on the brakes and kicked down again. I eventually came to a stop and turn the ignition off.
    I removed the unit right there next to the road. What happened if my other half was driving? No doubt that it would have ended in an accident.
    I will never use a throttle modulator again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoB View Post
    I bought an Idrive unit, worked really well until it got a mind of its own. It was only installed for 3 hours...
    I was cruising along at 70km/h, when all of a sudden the vehicle dropped two gears and went flat out. I jumped on the brakes and kicked down again. I eventually came to a stop and turn the ignition off.
    I removed the unit right there next to the road. What happened if my other half was driving? No doubt that it would have ended in an accident.
    I will never use a throttle modulator again.

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    That sounds terrible Jono, thanks for the feedback. Will definitely avoid that unit. A friend of mine has had his unit in for few thousand kms and just fitted his new Ranger as well. Makes a great difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoB View Post
    I bought an Idrive unit, worked really well until it got a mind of its own. It was only installed for 3 hours...
    I was cruising along at 70km/h, when all of a sudden the vehicle dropped two gears and went flat out. I jumped on the brakes and kicked down again. I eventually came to a stop and turn the ignition off.
    I removed the unit right there next to the road. What happened if my other half was driving? No doubt that it would have ended in an accident.
    I will never use a throttle modulator again.

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    Wow, thatís scary!

    Iíve been using idrive for 3 years now, no issues with mine.

    I have a 2014 Bt50 3.2
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    If you want better performance and power delivery beyond what the factory intended, then please go about it the right way! Donít just slot in an aftermarket device that tricks the engine control systems into delivering more diesel!

    step 1. Fit some sort of accurate EGT gauge (this is becoming less critical as modern vehicles do monitor this, and have coolant alarms etc as standard, but still.... especially if whatever you are going to fit is going to override the built in safety systems on your motor)

    step 2. Fit an aftermarket exhaust, get as much of the restriction out of the pipe.

    step 3. Fit an unrated intercooler, that allows the car to breath better, and improved your low down torque (so you donít need a pedal booster)

    step 4. Have the car remapped on a Dyno by someone who actually knows what they are doing.

    If if thatís still not enough for you, then start fiddling with hybrid turbos, overboost mechanisms, etc etc, or sell the 3 ton off-road SUV and buy yourself a sports car (or a Range Rover)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    If you want better performance and power delivery beyond what the factory intended, then please go about it the right way! Donít just slot in an aftermarket device that tricks the engine control systems into delivering more diesel!

    step 1. Fit some sort of accurate EGT gauge (this is becoming less critical as modern vehicles do monitor this, and have coolant alarms etc as standard, but still.... especially if whatever you are going to fit is going to override the built in safety systems on your motor)

    step 2. Fit an aftermarket exhaust, get as much of the restriction out of the pipe.

    step 3. Fit an unrated intercooler, that allows the car to breath better, and improved your low down torque (so you donít need a pedal booster)

    step 4. Have the car remapped on a Dyno by someone who actually knows what they are doing.

    If if thatís still not enough for you, then start fiddling with hybrid turbos, overboost mechanisms, etc etc, or sell the 3 ton off-road SUV and buy yourself a sports car (or a Range Rover)
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    What does a pedal booster actually do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    What does a pedal booster actually do?
    Increases the throttle's response mainly, thereby removing some lag. I have had the iDrive on my Wrangler since April. For R2000 this has to be the best "mod" for the money. Makes a huge difference in driveability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heikeedwin View Post
    +1

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    In that order .. hybrid turbo and/or nozzles will require a retune
    Which is best air filter to replace with without warranty issues and if you remap do they ajust the throttle response as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrek View Post
    Which is best air filter to replace with without warranty issues and if you remap do they ajust the throttle response as well?
    Iím using k&n inbox air filter, no issues with warranty in Mozambique.. better check with your dealer first

    Yes remap will adjust throttle response as well, and will definitely void warranty, if they know about it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    What does a pedal booster actually do?
    Interupts the signal between the ECU and the fuel pump/injector rail, tricking the car into overfueling to spool the turbo faster and improve throttle response, and then burns a hole in your piston....

    pedal boosters Ed are dangerous because they override the vehicle systems and work by feeding false data into sensors. A proper remap achieves the same result, whiteout compromising the engine management

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    Interupts the signal between the ECU and the fuel pump/injector rail, tricking the car into overfueling to spool the turbo faster and improve throttle response, and then burns a hole in your piston....

    pedal boosters Ed are dangerous because they override the vehicle systems and work by feeding false data into sensors. A proper remap achieves the same result, whiteout compromising the engine management
    Is the pedal booster some kind of sophisticated inline voltage or current booster, with a response curve map loaded, to force the pump into giving a momentary extra squirt of fuel at low throttle openings?

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    Fitted pedal box from DTE nearly 2 years back. I love it and no problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    Interupts the signal between the ECU and the fuel pump/injector rail, tricking the car into overfueling to spool the turbo faster and improve throttle response, and then burns a hole in your piston....

    pedal boosters Ed are dangerous because they override the vehicle systems and work by feeding false data into sensors. A proper remap achieves the same result, whiteout compromising the engine management
    Nonsense

    All the idrive and pedal boosters does is increase/decrease throttle sensitivity. It has zero affect on fueling/boost etc.

    Basically what it does, you press the throttle 50%,it tells the ecu you have it planted at 60%, you press the throttle 75%, it tells the ecu you have it at 90%, the 100% is still 100% but with the pedal boosters you only have to plant the pedal half way or so to get there, this makes the vehicle feel like its faster but actually you just have a sensitive throttle.

    What RPier described above is what majority of the off the shelf piggy back's does that connects to the ecu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    Is the pedal booster some kind of sophisticated inline voltage or current booster, with a response curve map loaded, to force the pump into giving a momentary extra squirt of fuel at low throttle openings?
    Almost, lets say for this example the factory drive by wire system is a 5v linear system, that means that taking your foot off the accelerator will gives 0v to ecu and flooring it gives 5v to the ecu, for this example when you have the pedal 50% pressed it gives 2.5v, but instead the pedal booster changes this to 3v which means the ecu thinks the pedal is pressed 60%, the pedal booster just changes this curve away from linear to a more logarithmic scale which increases sensitivity, at max it still only sends what your drive by wire is capped at and system allows which is the 5v in our specific example. the ecu still receives a voltage of between 0-5v from the pedal (even if the pedal booster is plugged in and active) and use that 0-5v to reference the various tables in the ecu
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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo7 View Post
    Nonsense

    All the idrive and pedal boosters does is increase/decrease throttle sensitivity. It has zero affect on fueling/boost etc.

    Basically what it does, you press the throttle 50%,it tells the ecu you have it planted at 60%, you press the throttle 75%, it tells the ecu you have it at 90%, the 100% is still 100% but with the pedal boosters you only have to plant the pedal half way or so to get there, this makes the vehicle feel like its faster but actually you just have a sensitive throttle.

    What RPier described above is what majority of the off the shelf piggy back's does that connects to the ecu.
    Agree....it basically does what most vehicles do with "sport" mode.
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    ry die kar soos hy is, hel jy betaal R600/700k plus en dan neuk jy hom op met 'n peddle gedoente..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuanB View Post
    Agree....it basically does what most vehicles do with "sport" mode.
    Actually, sport mode has a lot more to do with the gearbox algorithms than with the throttle response itself.... essentially making the box shift down sooner when overtaking/inclines etc, and holding gears longer while accelerating. in more sophisticated cars, the sport mode actually changes a whole lot more than that (changes mapping, gearbox settings, suspension settings, LSD sensitive etc etc)

    if a pedal booster really does work the way you guys say it does, than itís an even more stupid thing to fit! If all it does is trick the ECU into thinking you have pressed the peddle further than you actually have, but the max stays the same, then why not just press the peddle a little deeper down when you want to go faster?

    seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    Actually, sport mode has a lot more to do with the gearbox algorithms than with the throttle response itself.... essentially making the box shift down sooner when overtaking/inclines etc, and holding gears longer while accelerating. in more sophisticated cars, the sport mode actually changes a whole lot more than that (changes mapping, gearbox settings, suspension settings, LSD sensitive etc etc)

    if a pedal booster really does work the way you guys say it does, than itís an even more stupid thing to fit! If all it does is trick the ECU into thinking you have pressed the peddle further than you actually have, but the max stays the same, then why not just press the peddle a little deeper down when you want to go faster?

    seriously.
    LOL...ok genius...please go improve your google knowledge some further...its clear you have NO idea what you are talking about and have heard some terms thrown around and made your own conclusions
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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo7 View Post
    LOL...ok genius...please go improve your google knowledge some further...its clear you have NO idea what you are talking about and have heard some terms thrown around and made your own conclusions
    Really?

    If you are going to shoot someone down, you need to, at least, say why.

    A pedal booster just reads your throttle input and tells the ecu something else as a throttle input. Its that simple.

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