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    Need some input and advice from the guys that know jeeps.
    I have a specific requirement ! I use and need a vehicle for filming and photography .

    The front windscreen must be able to drop forward, doors must be removable, must be 4x4 , Deasil or Petrol .
    I do not want to tow the vehicle to location.
    Reliability in paramount !!

    I had a Jiminy - does not work for this application , uncomfortable … no power …… does not tow well ! windscreen cant drop forward...
    Landrover to expensive for what it is. also unreliable …..
    Suzuki SJ410 - to small, no power
    Mahindra THAR ...Almost but not quite there

    I have had Discoverys (not for this application, just for driving) UNRELIABLE !

    I feel that the Jeep Wrangler will do the JOB !

    from what I read - the issues are not the type that make you stand in the middle of the bush !

    Issues and comments please !

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    Budget?

    Fuel type?

    Packing space?
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    Hi Jelo.......

    Petrol or Desil does not matter , (would like Deasil but petrol has its advantages )
    The two door wrangler has enough space , (will remover back seats and build in packing boxes/draws )
    Budget 180k max .......(this will not be an every day vehicle , only when filming )

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    The TJ Wranglers are bullet-proof. Yes, they guzzle juice but apart from some gearbox issues, are mostly completely without problems.

    https://www.webuycars.co.za/buy-a-car/23ECD2626

    The manual box versions are generally better.

    WeSellCars has quite a few options.

    https://www.webuycars.co.za/buy-a-ca...mount_Sort=asc

    the later JK is more expensive but also pretty robust, just stay away from the diesel in this case because it's a bit of a Russian Roulette engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Hi Jelo.......

    Petrol or Desil does not matter , (would like Deasil but petrol has its advantages )
    The two door wrangler has enough space , (will remover back seats and build in packing boxes/draws )
    Budget 180k max .......(this will not be an every day vehicle , only when filming )
    You can get a nice JK 3.8 V6 for that budget even though it'll be ~10 years old. Good power but not really fast. Thirsty, especially with mods. Solid drive train AFAIK. Diesel - well, I'd be wary of an older VM Motori...
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    If you decide to go with a 3.8 then I’d recommend a manual rather than that auto.

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    https://www.facebook.com/groups/4x4c...tyclassifieds/

    There is a nice one listed here, price seems a bit high though, although taking the kit and mileage into account maybe not.

    2006 Jeep TJ
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    50 000km, with Service Book.

    Extras:

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    Genade manne, die TJ kom vanuit 'n ander eeu! OP get yourself a JK...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/4x4c...tyclassifieds/

    There is a nice one listed here, price seems a bit high though, although taking the kit and mileage into account maybe not.
    That thing looks like fun!
    What would the new replacement value be on a similar model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Genade manne, die TJ kom vanuit 'n ander eeu! OP get yourself a JK...
    he can get a TJ for R100k
    the cheapest JK is around R180k

    R80k is a LOT of petrol...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/4x4c...tyclassifieds/

    There is a nice one listed here, price seems a bit high though, although taking the kit and mileage into account maybe not.
    This looks like a bargain.

    That Kit had to be way more than R100k, probably more like R150k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    he can get a TJ for R100k
    the cheapest JK is around R180k

    R80k is a LOT of petrol...............
    If the OP plans on doing long distances I would get the JK, it is loads more comfortable than a TJ.
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    OK...loads of info - seems that the wrangler is defniatly the way to go for my aplication ........I am not unique in my aplication, however most of the people with a similar need have a vehicle on location that has been modified for the purpose , and the vehicle stays there on location. They are sponsored by big orginisations so normally have two vehicles, one to do the work and one to travel to and from camp.

    I dont have that luxuary ..... My sponsors do not have big purses , so the same vehicle I use to travel to location I need to do filming and photography then get back home again .....

    Most use modified landcruisers and defenders ! like the Jouberts ........

    What is the difference between the TJ and the JK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    OK...loads of info - seems that the wrangler is defniatly the way to go for my aplication ........I am not unique in my aplication, however most of the people with a similar need have a vehicle on location that has been modified for the purpose , and the vehicle stays there on location. They are sponsored by big orginisations so normally have two vehicles, one to do the work and one to travel to and from camp.

    I dont have that luxuary ..... My sponsors do not have big purses , so the same vehicle I use to travel to location I need to do filming and photography then get back home again .....

    Most use modified landcruisers and defenders ! like the Jouberts ........

    What is the difference between the TJ and the JK
    Maybe you should go test drive them. You can buy a nice JKU for the upper end of the price, then you will really have the space you need!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post

    What is the difference between the TJ and the JK
    in a nutshell, about 20 years of newer tech

    The TJ mostly came as a short wheel base with a 4.0 inline 6 and either a 5 speed manual or 4-speed auto in this country.

    Same coil suspension as the Grand Cherokee of the same era.

    Basic ECU, no strange integrated body modules, basic aircon, basic radio.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler_(TJ)

    The JK is also coils, but for the pre-2012 models, you have an option of 5-speed manual and 5-speed auto, 3.8V6 petrol or 2.8L VM Motori turbo diesel.
    Body modules, aircon modules, ABS modules, CANBUS, entertainment system, etc.
    Body types were JK (SWB) or JKU (LWB).
    Trim level were Sahara or Rubicon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler_(JK)
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    I have a 2010 Wrangler 2.8 CRD, here is my take:

    Fuel consumption is an average of 8,2 Km/l (in town 6 km/l and on the open road 11km/l), 167 465km on the clock. The power is quite sufficient.

    I bought it at 98000 km with a full service record - I see the previous owner did a complete engine overall at 97500 km, I contacted him and it is due to snapping the timing chain up in Moz while dune driving. Don't dune drive with a diesel!

    Except for the service every 15 000 km, I only had to replace the fan belt 32 000km ago.

    I tried to remove the doors, the doors sit like hell.
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    Jelo, thanks for the helpfull advice .... Space is not so much of an issue , reliability is a major factor and obviously cost... SWB or LWB is not an issue at all, but so far I have learnt a lot , should have done my homework before buying the Jimny thingy ....but that is in the past !

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    in a nutshell, about 20 years of newer tech

    The TJ mostly came as a short wheel base with a 4.0 inline 6 and either a 5 speed manual or 4-speed auto in this country.

    Same coil suspension as the Grand Cherokee of the same era.

    Basic ECU, no strange integrated body modules, basic aircon, basic radio.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler_(TJ)

    The JK is also coils, but for the pre-2012 models, you have an option of 5-speed manual and 5-speed auto, 3.8V6 petrol or 2.8L VM Motori turbo diesel.
    Body modules, aircon modules, ABS modules, CANBUS, entertainment system, etc.
    Body types were JK (SWB) or JKU (LWB).
    Trim level were Sahara or Rubicon.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler_(JK)
    You mean 4 speed auto on the 3.8 JK...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Jelo, thanks for the helpfull advice .... Space is not so much of an issue , reliability is a major factor and obviously cost... SWB or LWB is not an issue at all, but so far I have learnt a lot , should have done my homework before buying the Jimny thingy ....but that is in the past !
    Reliability wise my current TJ has been awesome.

    It is only used as a toy on trails, so gets used pretty hard.

    Only work that has been done on it, other than mods and services was the autobox, but that was because of a bad indi.
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    I would rather look for a manual JK, their road manners are just so much better than the TJ.

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