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    Hi,
    I own a Jurgens Penta. I need to know if a Tando stabilizer will be sufficient for towing the Penta? I am towing with a 2019 Triton Athlete 2.4, 4x4 automatic.
    What is the correct torque setting on the Tando friction pad?
    Thanks for the help.
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    Tyre pressures ?
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    Default Re: Tando stabilizer

    was searcing for the same info a while ago, setting is between 38 and 40 Nm. see links below where I found the info.

    https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Cara...post=250153960

    https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Cara...post=250048369

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    Yes you can use a Tando on this van. The torque is 38Nm.
    Personally rather try the van without the stabalizer first. Ensure you have the weight distribution correct. Try for a ball weight of less than 100kg. Not always easy on some Jurgen vans. Do not overliad the caravan and check its laden weight if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream110 View Post
    was searcing for the same info a while ago, setting is between 38 and 40 Nm. see links below where I found the info.

    https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Cara...post=250153960

    https://www.caravanparks.com/35.Cara...post=250048369
    Thanks for the very helpful information! I will check and secure the setting to about 39NM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mplester View Post
    Yes you can use a Tando on this van. The torque is 38Nm.
    Personally rather try the van without the stabalizer first. Ensure you have the weight distribution correct. Try for a ball weight of less than 100kg. Not always easy on some Jurgen vans. Do not overliad the caravan and check its laden weight if you can.
    Thanks for the information. Very much appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by duncang View Post
    Tyre pressures ?
    I am really curious why you ask this question? Does the tyre pressure have an effect on the usage of a stabilizer?
    (I am not being sarcastic in any sense)
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    Because people drive soft tyres on caravans, where if you are using a reinforced sidewall tyre you should be running 3bar

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    Quote Originally Posted by mplester View Post
    Because people drive soft tyres on caravans, where if you are using a reinforced sidewall tyre you should be running 3bar
    I assume you are talking about the caravan? What about the towing vehicle rear tires?
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    I would run my Hilux at 2.8 rear and load all the extras in there rather than the caravan

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    Quote Originally Posted by pretorjn View Post
    I am really curious why you ask this question? Does the tyre pressure have an effect on the usage of a stabilizer?
    (I am not being sarcastic in any sense)
    If you run it 3bar cold, most vans won't need a tando.
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    3 bar pressure on the vans tyres. Wow, that's hard. The bounce rate hitting corrugations and bumps on the road should increase dramatically. Unless the van is so heavy with lots of extras that you still get sidewall flex.

    The van if not that laden is going to rattle itself to zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickPrado View Post
    3 bar pressure on the vans tyres. Wow, that's hard. The bounce rate hitting corrugations and bumps on the road should increase dramatically. Unless the van is so heavy with lots of extras that you still get sidewall flex.

    The van if not that laden is going to rattle itself to zero.

    Many years ago I was towing a Sprite Sabre. GVM +- 1450kg. (Towing with a Cressida. Tare 1490kg) I never overloaded. Many thousands of happy kilometers with the caravan tires at 3.0 bar. Anything less was looking for trouble. It did not rattle itself to zero... but it didn't really often go off the good black stuff. I did use a Tando for peace of mind.

    Even the Super Sport before that was running at 2.8 to 3.0 depending on weight.

    The OP has a Jurgens Penta. I guess the GVM is also around 1400kg. Same as above.
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    Penta is not for offroad.
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    I used to tow a Penta with a Tando as I used tow faster than I should.

    My experience then with the Tando was that as is a welded fabrication, that meant that the faces of the bearing surfaces were not parallel. This meant excessive wear initially, on the brake material, so much so that after a 490km tow when unhitching the assembly simply flopped around it was so loose. I regularly had to torque the bolt. Not sure if they have since addressed the issue.

    I swapped out for a Trapezuim, threw that in the dustbin in the Kruger.

    If you load correctly, pump the tow vehicle tyre's correctly (Fortuner 3.0 rear and 2.5 front) and have the van at 2.7+ (Penta 3.0) most your issues will disappear. The nose weight of my Penta is high, around 120kg.

    Pack evenly, pack low down, pack toward the front to avoid yaw inertia.


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    Default Re: Tando stabilizer

    I have never towed a large caravan, so I am a little out of my depth of what the technicalities of the Tando's, Yellow Blades and similar are.

    However I simply deduce and I dont think I am far off, the tension induces a vertical force simulating nose weight. The friction part resists sway once this starts.

    My BIL by daughters marriage is a keen caravaner for years and currently owns a Penta towed with a Ford Ranger. He uses a Tando and the bracket on the van continously bends.

    I have advised him that correct packing of nose weight at 100kg, correctly packing the van that heavy weight sits across the axle and correct tyre pressure are all that is needed.

    Granted my van is a Xplorer, which are known for heavy nose weights but I have not had a single issue ever with sway even in cross winds.

    Stick to the guidelines and towing is a breeze.

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