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    This is under the pub because we don't have an Environmental section...........

    Was driving home today and had a thought: with unemployment at 20%, how come does the government not have the vision to create a Recycling Battalion/Regiment?

    - each dumping ground / land-fill gets a platoon of recyclers (they are there ANYWAY)
    - they get equipped with masks and gloves
    - as each truck/bakkie/skip comes in, the contents goes down a conveyor and the sorters sort into components as per type: glass, paper, plastic, metals, bio waste
    - then the collectors fetch the full drums/skips and that gets processed on site (compressed, baled, etc) and shipped to the recyclers.
    - bio-waste gets shredded, composted and sold or put into the landfill

    Benefits:
    - cleaner landfills
    - only bio-waste gets bull-dozed into the land-fill
    - work creation
    - environment is cleaner
    - UN will probably assist with funding

    But I assume the problem is lack of vision and leadership.

    What a pity.
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    This is a great idea....and make up teams that go through townships etc. and collect all their garbage they pile up next to the road. pay these guys per kg of waste...drove to Ponta 2 weeks ago and places like the road to Jozini and before Pongola are horrific with litter.
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    They will become unionised, and then will strike because they aren't getting enough money to live on. Then they will set fire to all the rubbish and .... oh wait, suddenly this idea sound like a good one....
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    Good idea, but like the recycling of tyres the government will get involved, it will go out to tender, everything (like tyres and plastic bags did) will get a recycling charge, the money will go into a black hole (like the tyres and plastic bags) and the business will fail as it's not getting the money (like tyres and plastic bags). The levy will continue and never get dropped (like tyres and plastic bags) and we'll keep paying.

    NOW - if it could be privatised - different story. Still a great idea, but ripe for plunder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    This is under the pub because we don't have an Environmental section...........

    Was driving home today and had a thought: with unemployment at 20%, how come does the government not have the vision to create a Recycling Battalion/Regiment?

    - each dumping ground / land-fill gets a platoon of recyclers (they are there ANYWAY)
    - they get equipped with masks and gloves
    - as each truck/bakkie/skip comes in, the contents goes down a conveyor and the sorters sort into components as per type: glass, paper, plastic, metals, bio waste
    - then the collectors fetch the full drums/skips and that gets processed on site (compressed, baled, etc) and shipped to the recyclers.
    - bio-waste gets shredded, composted and sold or put into the landfill

    Benefits:
    - cleaner landfills
    - only bio-waste gets bull-dozed into the land-fill
    - work creation
    - environment is cleaner
    - UN will probably assist with funding

    But I assume the problem is lack of vision and leadership.

    What a pity.
    Along similar lines, this was tried in Durban at the Mariannhill Landfill site, which is also a revived nature conservancy encouraging plant growth and rehabilitation, and the introduction of wildlife and birds back into the area.
    Productivity was slow.
    Costs kept rising.
    Workers demanded more & more pay.
    Half the recyclable materials were not being recycled.
    And if I remember correctly, I think that a worker fell into a machine and had their legs amputated.

    There was a newspaper article about the recycling project, which came to a halt. This was a couple of years ago.
    And just yesterday I was at the landfill site, and it looked like the recycling area was being resurrected, but not a 100% sure.
    I met some crazy people.... They made me their leader.

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    precisely
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    How about we burn our garbage and waste to power Eskom by steam.....if not ....build a steam powered power generator in each township...the more garbage burned the cheaper the electricity...i power my donkey by burning my garbage anyway...hot shower everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyClifton View Post
    How about we burn our garbage and waste to power Eskom by steam.....if not ....build a steam powered power generator in each township...the more garbage burned the cheaper the electricity...i power my donkey by burning my garbage anyway...hot shower everyday.
    yes, and I'd say with the right furnace, a lot less pollutants than bad coal............

    You see, another good idea.

    What about hydrocarbon cracking?
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    One of the investment projects that I am looking at entails making diesel out of plastic waste. The technology is sound but onboarding the municipality is the sticking point. The interesting thing is that there is already a well established informal hierarchy in place of collectors and buyers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    This is under the pub because we don't have an Environmental section...........

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    Not quite on your topic, but regarding recycling look at this PE project.
    https://www.retradeproject.co.za/

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    In Zambia there is National Service, voluntary mind you. They take youngsters and train them in various trades and then send them to the rural areas to build schools and clinics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    Not quite on your topic, but regarding recycling look at this PE project.
    https://www.retradeproject.co.za/
    That is quite an amazing initiative.
    There are some good people out there with decent humanitarian outlooks and social well being of others.
    I met some crazy people.... They made me their leader.

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    Thanks.

    Dirk, we can move this if necessary?

    OOPS already been moved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by River Rat View Post
    One of the investment projects that I am looking at entails making diesel out of plastic waste. The technology is sound but onboarding the municipality is the sticking point. The interesting thing is that there is already a well established informal hierarchy in place of collectors and buyers.
    yep, hydrocarbon cracking
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    Quote Originally Posted by River Rat View Post
    One of the investment projects that I am looking at entails making diesel out of plastic waste. The technology is sound but onboarding the municipality is the sticking point. The interesting thing is that there is already a well established informal hierarchy in place of collectors and buyers.
    Looks like a workable solution, 1l of fuel per kg of plastic. Next question is how much input needed like electricity and such.
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    Allow me to be a bit sceptical here... transforming 1 Kg of scrap plastic into 1L petrol/diesel (maybe I missed it,) is a better than 80% recovery ratio. I have not found any data to substantiate the claim, or provide any spec for the output.

    Would it not be more efficient to recycle the plastic into granules for reuse rather than to transform it into diesel/petrol?

    Scrap plastic to granules is a process that happens in some form or another at nearly all flexible plastic manufacturing plants/factories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcR View Post
    Allow me to be a bit sceptical here... transforming 1 Kg of scrap plastic into 1L petrol/diesel (maybe I missed it,) is a better than 80% recovery ratio. I have not found any data to substantiate the claim, or provide any spec for the output.

    Would it not be more efficient to recycle the plastic into granules for reuse rather than to transform it into diesel/petrol?

    Scrap plastic to granules is a process that happens in some form or another at nearly all flexible plastic manufacturing plants/factories.
    1L of diesel is lighter than 1kg of plastic..........there are some losses.

    But the energy requirement is the problem. The latest crackers start off with electricity and then use their own product to heat the cracking furnace. That's how I understand it anyway.
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