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    I currently have a 1998 Defender with a full Ironman suspension and 33" tires. Needless to say ground clearance is no issue.

    On my Everest though, I would like a bit of a lift, just for the basic off roading.

    I know the front suspension setup is the same as the Ranger, so fitting a spacer is an option, but I'm wondering if I can fit a set of longer coils front and rear to the standard shocks to achieve the 25-30mm lift required?

    Will this be more of an issue than anything else or completely doable?

    Advice would be highly appreciated.
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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    So with an extra lift, what do you think will happen when you exceed the maximum extension length on the shocks.......................................?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    So with an extra lift, what do you think will happen when you exceed the maximum extension length on the shocks.......................................?
    It will stop at the maximum length of the shock travel I would assume.

    My need however is constant clearance getting over an obstacle.

    Doesn't help if the cars clearance is so low, you can't even get to the point where I would need full articulation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henko88 View Post
    It will stop at the maximum length of the shock travel I would assume.

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    You assume wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    You assume wrong.
    Then please enlighten me?

    I was asking for advice, not a lecture...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henko88 View Post
    Then please enlighten me?

    I was asking for advice, not a lecture...
    sorry I was brief, SWAMBO cracked the whip..........

    shocks have a specific maximum length: even on a bouncy road, with extended springs, you could exceed the max length of the shock

    then one of three things happens:

    - one of the shock mounts breaks off the suspension member or the chassis
    - the shock dismembers itself at the oil reservoir/shock body seam
    - one of the shock eyes breaks off

    none of these are good things
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    Quote Originally Posted by mplester View Post
    Might be applicable to that specific vehicle for those specific reasons, but otherwise I can say from previous experience, that Jelo is right. There is a very good reason why often shocks e.g. from OME, Iron Man, EFS and what other aftermarket suppliers have longer travel.
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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    Take a careful look at your Everest rear shocks and the ground clearance as well as how the attachment bolts sit before you spend money on upgrading it. The clearance is minimal for offroading.

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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    Excuse my ignorance, but doesn't the Everest have solid axles? I don't understand how spacers, springs, etc. can influence ground clearance or are we talking about body lift?

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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    We used to lower cars back in the day and you had to take your shocks to Ian Glass and get them shortened to match the spring rate.

    If you go and fit longer springs without replacing the shocks you will end up with shocks that are too short. They will spend a lot of time fully extended and probably end up failing.

    Why do you not want to replace the shocks? Money? If that's the case just fit spacers. You will get your lift to clear the obstacles and still have correct shock absorber rates. They won't assist in articulation but if that's not your priority then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shfish View Post
    Excuse my ignorance, but doesn't the Everest have solid axles? I don't understand how spacers, springs, etc. can influence ground clearance or are we talking about body lift?
    The Everest has a solid axle at the back with a watt-link and coil setup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut View Post
    We used to lower cars back in the day and you had to take your shocks to Ian Glass and get them shortened to match the spring rate.

    If you go and fit longer springs without replacing the shocks you will end up with shocks that are too short. They will spend a lot of time fully extended and probably end up failing.

    Why do you not want to replace the shocks? Money? If that's the case just fit spacers. You will get your lift to clear the obstacles and still have correct shock absorber rates. They won't assist in articulation but if that's not your priority then so be it.

    I am not keen on spending R20k+ for a full setup. I don't do enough off-roading for that, I do however want a bit more clearance.

    For the front, spacers are easy to find, as they are the same as the Ranger. I cannot find spacers for the rear coils in SA. I know it's possible for spacer in the rear coils as there are many Pajero's and the lot with spacers for the rear coils, hence my question about the longer coils.

    I am fitting larger tyres soon and also thinking of removing the plastic steps for rock sliders, which will already help a bit with clearance
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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    Chat to Gino @ Supreme Spring in JHB. They manufacture/stock standard and Heavy Duty Springs and Leaf Springs for a large variety of vehicles on sa roads. I do see they have on their price list a T6 option.

    It is an old price list.

    chat to him regarding pricing and whether they supply anything for your vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne P View Post
    Chat to Gino @ Supreme Spring in JHB. They manufacture/stock standard and Heavy Duty Springs and Leaf Springs for a large variety of vehicles on sa roads. I do see they have on their price list a T6 option.

    It is an old price list.

    chat to him regarding pricing and whether they supply anything for your vehicle.
    Luckily I can have the coils made here in Bloemfontein.

    The manufacturer said that the coil would give about a 38mm lift over standard. I know I will be extending the shock on a constant basis, but surely the shock can handle that? Full travel on the standard shock is WAAAAY more than that.

    When someone fits extended shackles to their bakkies, doesn't that also extend the shock constantly?
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    Default Re: Longer/Upgraded Coils on Standard Shocks

    To add to what everyone is saying, - spacers, especially at the back, will give you no more ground clearance (your axle and diff will stay the same height) - it's really only bigger tyres that will do that. However, spacers will give the body a little more clearance.
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