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    Default Emigration options for 7 siblings and extended family

    I'm blessed to be part of 7 siblings that are quite close - in fact, we likely our best friends tooEach one of us never really considered emigration due to our very tight family bonds.However, over the last few weeks, we started discussing any options for the family to collectively leave or at least , have plan B3 of us are financially independent and below 50 , with the younger siblings all having decent jobs and wages, If we are able to find a country (Namibia, Botswana etc) that will collectively take us, we might have enough resources not have to find work (although we definitely will just to keep busy) and be self sufficient. Home schooling also an optionWith kids we approx. 20 ppl, and a compound or farm of some sorts close to a city comes to mind.I understand that if SA goes belly up, SADC will suffer too Any other options that anyone can suggest?
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    Why stay in Africa? If ZA hits the poo, the whole of the SADC collapses as you mentioned. Not many other countries that are stable enough outside of SADC.

    here are the 5 most stable countries in Africa



    I'd consider Spain or Portugal. Plenty of deserted farms in Spain. They'd be just too happy to have your investment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I'd consider Spain or Portugal. Plenty of deserted farms in Spain. They'd be just too happy to have your investment.
    Spain has the highest de-ruralisation in the EU, whole villages up for sale for a couple of R100k. Corsica is the same. Those would be better options.
    There is no such thing as inclement weather, only poor selection of clothing.... or Vehicle

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    Cyprus and I think Malta also have villages standing empty and they are paying people to come and live there.

    Namibia's economy is in trouble and from what I understand the government is bordering on bankruptcy. Botswana will not just 'take' you.
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    we planning to fly to Portugal in September - might just check out those other regions too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Spain has the highest de-ruralisation in the EU, whole villages up for sale for a couple of R100k. Corsica is the same. Those would be better options.
    Then again, yŠll being so close n all, there is always the mountains of Kentuckey.............. ding ading ding ding

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    I've noticed there is quite a lot of Saffa's immigrating and considering Panama...

    Join the Facebook page... A lot of questions being asked, and also a lot of feedback from Saffa's in Panama. ..

    SADC will be the easiest to adapt to I think, but as mentioned above, any downturn here in ZA will have an influence on those countries...

    I've done some reading on Panama and it looks like quite an attractive option if one decides to go. Low unemployment (+- 2.5%) High GDP Growth (10+%) and classified as a high income-country. As far as I know there are 0 high income countries on the beloved Africa continent.

    My advice will be for wherever you decide to go. Let it be the pull-factors and not a push-factor decision. Getting out of ZA because it is bad in my opinion not the best of starting points. Point of departure should be that you rather moving to better prospects. Not sure if any of the SADC countries will give you that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman View Post
    Let it be the pull-factors and not a push-factor decision.
    We might not have an option soon.

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    Hi guys.

    Any links available for the Portugal Spain options?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu Fan View Post
    Hi guys.

    Any links available for the Portugal Spain options?

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    google "golden visa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman View Post
    Not sure if any of the SADC countries will give you that
    Indeed, think of the Rhodesians who left for SA. Out of the frying pan as they say
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    We might not have an option soon.
    Indeed, and that is the part that has me worried...

    But while there is no real panic (yet), rather take the time and make a decision going forward. Currently, there are a lot of places were you will be a lot worse off than ZA... But, who knows, in a year or 10 anything will do...

    But, while you have a slight luxury of time (perhaps limited)... Do proper research... I have a good friend who is farming in Zambia at the moment... Almost done building his dream home on the property... Already a few of my school friends asking him about opportunities... Might be a good option for now... 10, 20, 30 years from know...? Africa is a funny place


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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Indeed, think of the Rhodesians who left for SA. Out of the frying pan as they say
    Correct unfortunately... We have family friends in Bergville KZN that left Zim in the early 80's... Beautiful irrigation farm, already drawing the wrong attention from some politically connected individuals...


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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I'd consider Spain or Portugal. Plenty of deserted farms in Spain. They'd be just too happy to have your investment.
    At least you will be right at home with the corruption in Spain.
    I have a colleague who lives just outside Barcelona and he says it's really bad.
    In all fairness, probably not as bad as here....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    At least you will be right at home with the corruption in Spain.
    I have a colleague who lives just outside Barcelona and he says it's really bad.
    In all fairness, probably not as bad as here....
    At least you're safe even if the Catelans or Basques get uppity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    google "golden visa"
    There are available options from countries that are within EU. With such EU passport can work anywhere within.

    Those cheap houses are available in very many countries. I saw an article where they checked what you get for EUR 1 in Finland.

    Non EU country now but later highly likely is North Macedonia. Average salary about EUR500 per month = cheap place. When they will join the property values will go up.
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