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    Default New Retro Style Caravans - Is there not a HUGE Market here??

    Wondering about something.

    After playing around with that old Gypsey of mine, and really enjoying the "retroness" of it:

    Is there not a HUGE potential market for retro-style caravans in SA??

    Something with a rounded (old) retro shape, almost "kitch" or "art deco", but with all the latest mod cons inside??

    Think of something like a small Airstream??
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    Default Re: New Retro Style Caravans - Is there not a HUGE Market here??

    The BIG question is - can it survive offroad overlanding and if so, at what COST?

    But I do like the way you think.

    Edit:
    There is nothing wrong with "old" (retro), like me!
    OK maybe one or two things slightly out of kilter ... yes?
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    Peter, I just think everyone LOVES retro stuff. Think VW Beetle. Cooper. Fiat 500. Vespa. Indian Motorcycles and Harleys.

    See attached pic........would'nt you pay for this?? More than for ANY other modern Deetleffs or whatever??
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    Default Re: New Retro Style Caravans - Is there not a HUGE Market here??

    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Peter, I just think everyone LOVES retro stuff. Think VW Beetle. Cooper. Fiat 500. Vespa. Indian Motorcycles and Harleys.

    See attached pic........would'nt you pay for this?? More than for ANY other modern Deetleffs or whatever??
    Petri, there's a HUGE difference between this and an old Gypsey.

    But in my opinion, no, there won't be a market for something like that. The VW never sold well. So not all the retro stuff works - some of it bombs. And I would argue that the era where it was popular has probably passed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanRoux View Post
    Petri, there's a HUGE difference between this and an old Gypsey.

    But in my opinion, no, there won't be a market for something like that. The VW never sold well. So not all the retro stuff works - some of it bombs. And I would argue that the era where it was popular has probably passed?
    Agge nee Johan man.........I thought I'm in the Airstream class now with my Gypsey'tjie.
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    Default Re: New Retro Style Caravans - Is there not a HUGE Market here??

    I would say there is a market, but possibly only a very narrow one within the caravan community.

    Perhaps Jeep and Defender drivers would be a target market, if the design echoes the design ques of their vehicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    I would say there is a market, but possibly only a very narrow one within the caravan community.

    Perhaps Jeep and Defender drivers would be a target market, if the design echoes the design ques of their vehicles.
    Guess you're very right . Would be damn cool, though.........I sort of have this idea that caravanning could then actually appeal to the younger guys, with a sort of "retro funkiness". But ja, next problem is I think the "funkiness" may disappear very quickly when arriving at some parks.

    But still SUPER cool, I think.
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    I have owned many caravans over the years - but none had THAT look.
    I was probably about 4 or 5 years old when THOSE were in the main stream.
    Many were made using fiberglass on a chassis rather than frame and cladding.

    Unfortunately I cannot remember the brand names. (May have been mainly American i think - like the Slipstream but that one was not fiberglass it was like a metal capsule, torpedo kind of thing.)
    Yes, you do still see the odd one around! I must say - not on the road though, but in caravan parks as" temporary" accommodation.

    The fiberglass caravans were good - much lighter and very aerodynamic usually (some exceptions) but tended to get stressed by flexing and started showing micro cracks and eventually leaking.
    Maybe with today's materials this would not be an issue.

    With fuel prices and all the other financial pressures these days I would not be investing in a new line of caravans unless something REALLY revolutionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Guess you're very right . Would be damn cool, though.........I sort of have this idea that caravanning could then actually appeal to the younger guys, with a sort of "retro funkiness". But ja, next problem is I think the "funkiness" may disappear very quickly when arriving at some parks.

    But still SUPER cool, I think.
    Based on the above, maybe there is room for ''re-imagining'' the caravan and what it could mean to a younger market.

    Most follow the same design and material ques and have a defined purpose such as a vacation home-from-home. What if it didnt look like a caravan and did more than being the vacation home-from-home?
    There is no such thing as inclement weather, only poor selection of clothing.... or Vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Based on the above, maybe there is room for ''re-imagining'' the caravan and what it could mean to a younger market.

    Most follow the same design and material ques and have a defined purpose such as a vacation home-from-home. What if it didnt look like a caravan and did more than being the vacation home-from-home?
    Eish! You mean like virtual reality!??

    Apologies, sometimes I just can't help myself!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    Eish! You mean like virtual reality!??
    Jaaaaa!!!! Met so rooikoppie wat saam camp.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    Eish! You mean like virtual reality!??

    Apologies, sometimes I just can't help myself!!!

    (Opens another beer ...)
    Hahaha... no, but often products that need to get into a new market or create one, need to be ''repositioned''. I would assume that the motivation(s) for a caravan are very similar to all who buy one. But what if it was positioned to cater to a different set of motivation(s)?
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    Damn.

    You all just trampled my Dream

    Just joking - but I guess what you say is true, its just not viable. Its like a DeLorean - no one thinks its nice except the designer and the funder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Jaaaaa!!!! Met so rooikoppie wat saam camp.........
    Mmmm- daai saamkamp kan nogal interesant wees maar SWAMBO sal NIE saamstem nie!

    Maar met die "virtual" dan kan mens sommer anders maak en dan ... Ja, nee, OK.

    Ons is nou definitief OT!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    Mmmm- daai saamkamp kan nogal interesant wees maar SWAMBO sal NIE saamstem nie!

    Maar met die "virtual" dan kan mens sommer anders maak en dan ... Ja, nee, OK.

    Ons is nou definitief OT!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Damn.

    You all just trampled my Dream

    Just joking - but I guess what you say is true, its just not viable. Its like a DeLorean - no one thinks its nice except the designer and the funder.
    Not at all. If you have a common platform and make to order the body for Retro, Jeep, Defender, XYZ owner, it could be commercially viable although expensive. The biggest market would probably be Europe or the US, so I think its viable, the question is, is it economically scale-able?
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    Default Re: New Retro Style Caravans - Is there not a HUGE Market here??

    The problem is that the type of person who believes retro is cool is that same person who would not be caught dead in, or even near a campsite. Can you just imagine a 'cool' hipster looking person walking with his plakkies with his toilet roll under one arm and toiletry bag and towel under the other arm to the bathrooms? Never ever.

    Its the same kind of people who have split window kombis, or mk1 golfs with the retro cool roof rack and surfboard strapped to it. That surfboard will never touch water in its life.
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    Petri, go watch old episodes of Top Gear to get over your caravan thing..

    Jokes aside, an Airstream is basically an artwork, a real thing of beauty with some practicality thrown into the mix. They don't make them like that anymore. But practically, I just don't think there are enough rich caravanners in SA to justify this.

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    would buy this in a heartbeat!!
    https://happiercamper.com/

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