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    How much do you spend on aftermarket accessories before you know you are putting money into a bottomless pit. Such things as mags and tyres can be sold off separately or used on new vehicle but what about snorkel, suspension, replacement bumpers, etc. Has anyone received the benefits of accessories when trading in.....Hereís the thing, I purchased my Hilux for 240K, I have spent 40K on accessories and 4x4 equipment and still want to spend about another 40K on completing my Hilux project. Wife said to stop . I say I have come this far so why not go all the way .....but 40K is still a lot to lose, if I decide to upgrade one day.

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    Zilch, nada, nothing on Trade-In. If you sell it out of hand you might, but not on trade in.
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    Nothing on trade in, very little on private sale.
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    If you are going to keep the vehicle for lets say, 10 years or longer, I think its worthwhile, if you fit necessary stuff that you are going to use and get value for your money out of it.

    Or if you are sticking with the same vehicle (say current Hilux/Cruiser) and transplant the equipment two or three times to the next/new vehicle.

    Buy a second hand vehicle with everything fitted and save.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC Polokwane View Post
    If you are going to keep the vehicle for lets say, 10 years or longer, I think its worthwhile, if you fit necessary stuff that you are going to use and get value for your money out of it.

    Or if you are sticking with the same vehicle (say current Hilux/Cruiser) and transplant the equipment two or three times to the next/new vehicle.

    Buy a second hand vehicle with everything fitted and save.
    Will be keeping the my Hilux for at least 5 years.
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    True, i did buy it with a full EFS 40mm lift kit at no extra cost to the vehicle
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    Money pit, het die T-Shirt Beste om al jou OME parte te hou en as jy die dag verkoop jou voertuig so na as way jy kan stock te maak. Verkoop dan al jou extras uit die hand. As jy gelukkig is behoort jy so tuseen 30-50 % van die extras se waarde terug te kry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBK View Post
    Money pit, het die T-Shirt Beste om al jou OME parte te hou en as jy die dag verkoop jou voertuig so na as way jy kan stock te maak. Verkoop dan al jou extras uit die hand. As jy gelukkig is behoort jy so tuseen 30-50 % van die extras se waarde terug te kry.
    Let the buyer beware. Remember - most decent suspensions carry a 3 year warranty. Buy it second hand, even after a year, and there is no warranty.
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    Iíve spent at least 3 times the value of my landy and Iím happy. My vehicle is a lifestyle choice and a tool as well as just plain old fun. If you want money back any car is the wrong way to go, the day you spend it itís gone
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    It is definitely a money pit as there is no end objective. This means no matter how much you convince yourself the mods will never end.

    Listen to your wife, else join a 4X4 modification addiction support group.

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    Default Re: Accessories worth it, or a money pit

    Money pit - definitely.

    But not ALL accessories - some of them definitely add value.

    Like a canopy, or mags, or seat covers, I'd say also a drawer system, maybe a replacement front bumper.

    Some extras may even make your "zooped up" 4x4 LESS desirable than the stock standard one next to it..........not everyone likes raised suspensions, winches, Mud tyres, rear wheel spare carriers and all that.

    And yes, MANY Buyers, if they see this zooped up DC 4X4 , will think "Hmmm......wonder where this car has been through, just look at all those 4x4 thingies!!!".

    So.......some Buyers will LOVE all those accessories.

    But I think more would not.

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    The longer you keep the car the worse it is, had my prado now 9 years:

    ARB front bar
    IPF spots
    Warn winch
    EFS suspension
    Takla covers
    Drawer system
    Led interior lights
    Extra power points
    Cargo cage / barrier
    Rock sliders
    Sparewheel braai plate
    Decatted exhaust
    Snorkel

    You eventually you just say stuff it keep the thing
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    This crossed my mind but I quickly cast the concern aside. My 4x4 is a key to my lifestyle, an opportunity for my family and I to explore otherwise unreachable areas.

    Will I recoup the investment when I sell it? Probably not.

    But hell the memories are priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering_Soul View Post
    This crossed my mind but I quickly cast the concern aside. My 4x4 is a key to my lifestyle, an opportunity for my family and I to explore otherwise unreachable areas.

    Will I recoup the investment when I sell it? Probably not.

    But hell the memories are priceless.
    This is what it is all about, well said

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    The money I have spent on the 9 4x4’s I’ve bought through the years and modified can most likely buy a decent two-bedroom rental property

    But then this is also integral to my lifestyle as mentioned already.


    I think one must categorize any additions and some just don’t add any value other than looks. Some you will likely remove and never sell, but reuse. Also depend how your vehicle is used, mall-crawler show-off or one that takes you to memorable places, some very far and hard to get to, Kaokoland for instance.


    Safety:
    1. Better quality tyres, some vehicles are sold with crappy tyres. Ok so full MT’s on the other hand won’t cut it in this category on the black stuff and rainy days.
    2. Bullbar - some will argue, but I’ve seen their advantages in an accident.
    3. Replacement suspension - when carrying load and especially using a RR packed to the hilt.
    Proper recovery points - speaks for itself.
    3. Diffloc(s) - where this is not fitted as OEM. Negotiating obstacles slower and with better control.
    4. Spots - for those who like driving at night.


    Non-negotiable (overlanding, camping i.e. lifestyle):
    1. Dual battery system, solar power aided.
    2. Packing system. Nice to have to some, essential to others to be organised.
    3. Fridge/freezer. Cannot go without it.
    4. RR also perhaps in this category, some people don’t tow, hence no option.
    5. Aux fuel tank.


    Nice to have’s:
    1. Winch - can be seen as essential if overlanding alone. I have only used mine to extract someone else. But then it is like insurance.
    2. HLJ - same as above.
    3. Sand tracks - same as above.
    4. Rocksliders


    Longevity of the vehicle:
    1. Snorkel - engine won’t mind cooler and cleaner air, albeit not a massive gain.
    2. Maybe freeflow and no cats? - diesel specific. Make the engine work a little less stressful.


    Esthetics:
    1. Body kits
    2. Rims


    And so on and so on.....

    Few additions add value if any when you trade in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TL MIKE View Post
    How much do you spend on aftermarket accessories before you know you are putting money into a bottomless pit. Such things as mags and tyres can be sold off separately or used on new vehicle but what about snorkel, suspension, replacement bumpers, etc. Has anyone received the benefits of accessories when trading in.....Hereís the thing, I purchased my Hilux for 240K, I have spent 40K on accessories and 4x4 equipment and still want to spend about another 40K on completing my Hilux project. Wife said to stop . I say I have come this far so why not go all the way .....but 40K is still a lot to lose, if I decide to upgrade one day.
    You never ever let the wife know the expenses of modifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCTheron View Post
    The money I have spent on the 9 4x4ís Iíve bought through the years and modified can most likely buy a decent two-bedroom rental property
    This is very true. Dirk but damn it is fun to modify 4x4`s. It will never be money well spend but the satisfaction just blind the costs. I have built several project 4x4`s it is the best therapy for me out there. The price of a built is cheap vs blowing money on medical treatment.
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    Depends on your type of use.
    Lots of guys go with a front bumper and bash plate.
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    Save on the aesthetics and go somewhere with the money rather. But Iím a boring old f#rt and couldnít give a rats about appearances, just ask my wife. Only thing Iíll lose money on is the dual charging system. The roof rack can be removed, home made rack system adjusted and reused. Might reevaluate a bash plate after my last trip, the standard one is ephukile. Might do a long range tank as well, lugging Jerry cans around is a schlep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    This is very true. Dirk but damn it is fun to modify 4x4`s. It will never be money well spend but the satisfaction just blind the costs. I have built several project 4x4`s it is the best therapy for me out there. The price of a built is cheap vs blowing money on medical treatment.
    Very true Grips, without many of my modified vehicles I would never have had so much fun and reached places an unmodified vehicle would dream reaching.

    It is all about application. One can take a stock standard DC 4x4 for instance, slap a canopy on, some basic camping gear and tour SA, Nam, Bots, Moz, etc.

    Myself, no, I need to be very well kitted, itís an addiction I suppose in a way. It is what makes one tick. A sundowner sitting on a RR with a warm beer at the most stunning spot is not negotiable in my eyes, hence preparing well.
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    Yes I went to places where a 4x4 with no sliders, bash blates would have picked up serious damage.

    You do not use stuff like winches every day but they can get you out off sticky stuff fairly easy.

    It is however silly to modify and kit a 4x4 beyond what you plan to do with it.

    I am busy kitting the 79 as an overlander. The 76 will do the more serious stuff and will see things like 35's.

    Have seen some damage to a few 4x4's this past weekend and that were in the dunes. Damage that could be prevented by a simple 4x4 bumper and bash plate.

    Then nothing is so sexy as a nice kitted or modified 4x4
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