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    Ek het my Ranger die week verkoop en is nou opsoek na iets in die R150k bracket.
    Ek sien nogal baie Patrols vir min geld en dit het my laat wonder. Ek weet niks van die voertuig af nie. Nog nooit in een gery nie.
    Kan iemand vir my bietjie meer detail gee oor hulle asb? Bv Petrol vs Diesel. Auto vs handrat. Sekere modelle wat mens moet wegbly van?
    Ek soek iets wat my Jurgens Excusive kan sleep...maar hy moet ook gerieflik op die langpad wees. Ek wil toer met hom maar ook my alle daagse ryding wees.
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    Gaan na patrol4x4.co.za. Dit is die patrol forum. Ek het self een. Die 4.8grx. Vrek swaar op petrol, en ek bedoel vrek swaar. Maar daar is nie n plek waar jy nie sal kan ry nie. Dit kom net in auto.

    Die 4.2 en 4.5 is ook uitstekende voertuie. As jy kyk na die 3L, kyk vir een na 2003. Die model tot en met 2003 was n “handgranaat”, so as jy so model vat, gaan jy ekstra geld moet uithaal om dit reg te maak en ekstra sensors te koop

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    I am biased but settled on a patrol because it has lots of space, offorad ability second to none and can tow anything. It is comfortable offroad and almost every experienced bad roader has grudgingly admitted it is the most comfortable car they have driven in (offroad). Coil springs on every corner make for a smooth ride and good handling on gravel roads.

    The drive train is pretty indestructible with the diff lock being a weak point but arguably a good thing as rather have that broken than an axle.

    Engines as Gothan said. The 4.2D older models are donkeys but ""kannie dood"". And often get an aftermarket turbo.
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    I have a 2000 Patrol 4.2D GL in daily use.

    Done 8320154 km yes you read correctly 832K km

    Nothing breaks on the Patrol....

    The 4.2D is ideal for every day use

    But - I would not tow a Jurgens Exclusive with the 4.2D if no turbo fitted
    (after market turbo fitting is always risky - no matter what some say)

    The 3.0 turbo Diesel is probably the best if you will use it for frequent commuting and holiday towing

    If you plan to use the vehicle for holidays only + towing really heavy, rather go for the latest model 4.8 Petrol you can afford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    I have a 2000 Patrol 4.2D GL in daily use.

    Done 8320154 km yes you read correctly 832K km

    Nothing breaks on the Patrol....

    The 4.2D is ideal for every day use

    But - I would not tow a Jurgens Exclusive with the 4.2D if no turbo fitted
    (after market turbo fitting is always risky - no matter what some say)

    The 3.0 turbo Diesel is probably the best if you will use it for frequent commuting and holiday towing

    If you plan to use the vehicle for holidays only + towing really heavy, rather go for the latest model 4.8 Petrol you can afford


    Thanks for the info. I will feel more comfortable with high mileage petrol than diesel... would you recommend auto or manual?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oubaard View Post
    Thanks for the info. I will feel more comfortable with high mileage petrol than diesel... would you recommend auto or manual?
    Auto feels luxurious and Swambo will prefer it...

    For reliability the Patrol Manual boxes are absolutely bullet proof

    And for slightly better fuel consumption manual is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    I have a 2000 Patrol 4.2D GL in daily use.

    Done 8320154 km yes you read correctly 832K km

    Nothing breaks on the Patrol....

    The 4.2D is ideal for every day use

    But - I would not tow a Jurgens Exclusive with the 4.2D if no turbo fitted
    (after market turbo fitting is always risky - no matter what some say)

    The 3.0 turbo Diesel is probably the best if you will use it for frequent commuting and holiday towing

    If you plan to use the vehicle for holidays only + towing really heavy, rather go for the latest model 4.8 Petrol you can afford

    First I thought my eyes are blurring when I read the 8 million kilometers, but luckily you corrected it afterwards

    Astonishing nevertheless and I thought breaking records with 355k kms on the 4.5 GL , the 4.2TD has only done 170k so far, so is hardly commissioned
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    Oops yes 832154 km
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    There are a few 4.8's with manual gearboxes as well. The GU spec-level had a manual box. They are VERY scarce though.
    Doesn't make much difference in fuel consumption on the road though, but it does seem to make a difference in soft sand.

    If you do decide to go for the 3l, go for the newest one you can afford. Extra points if it has an EGT monitor fitted, especially from new or almost new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Connan View Post
    There are a few 4.8's with manual gearboxes as well. The GU spec-level had a manual box. They are VERY scarce though.
    Doesn't make much difference in fuel consumption on the road though, but it does seem to make a difference in soft sand.

    If you do decide to go for the 3l, go for the newest one you can afford. Extra points if it has an EGT monitor fitted, especially from new or almost new.
    Major difference between 4.5 and 4.8?
    Do they come with difflock fitted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oubaard View Post
    Major difference between 4.5 and 4.8?
    Do they come with difflock fitted?
    4.8 comes with rear diff. Pretty sure the 4.5 also

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    It all comes down to consumption though. If you can stomach 18 to 20 l/100, then there really is nothing else to worry about. Honestly.

    You'll find a nice 4.8 auto, or, at least, between the guys on the patrol forum, theyll find you one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    It all comes down to consumption though. If you can stomach 18 to 20 l/100, then there really is nothing else to worry about. Honestly.

    You'll find a nice 4.8 auto, or, at least, between the guys on the patrol forum, theyll find you one.

    Ja the fuel consumption will be something to consider.. but take a V6 Prado 120 ..I think it will be slightly better? And I dont think you can compare the two... My '17 Ranger gave me 12.5L/100. I drive 2km to work everyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oubaard View Post
    Major difference between 4.5 and 4.8?
    Do they come with difflock fitted?
    slightly different engine, different power outputs, same fuel consumption..........
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    Difference between the 4.8 and the 4.5:

    4.5 is a push-rod 2-valve-per-cylinder engine. These normally have manual gearboxes, but if an auto, the box is an old-fashioned 3-speed plus overdrive job with very little manual override. Output is around 146 kW

    The 4.8 is a twin-cam 4-valve-per-cylinder engine. Most of them are autos, and the auto box is a 5-speed tiptronic unit with torque converter lock-up in top gear. Output is somewhere between 190 and 200 kW, depending on model year.

    The manual gearboxes are basically identical (maybe different ratios in some gears). Tbhe 4.8 has bigger brakes than the 4.5, and the hand-brake is small little drum brakes inside the rear discs, whereas all the other engine variants had a hand brake on the back of the gearbox.

    Otherwise the drivetrains are basically identical, but the interiors of the 4.8's are a bit fancier.
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    The 4.5 auto is heavier on fuel than the 4.8 auto at least 1.5lL, a friend of mine had the 4.5 auto before he traded it on a 4.8 auto . He never saw anything better than 4.5 km/liter . When we travelled to the Patrol 60th outing at 3 Provinces he got 7.1km/l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oubaard View Post
    Ja the fuel consumption will be something to consider.. but take a V6 Prado 120 ..I think it will be slightly better? And I dont think you can compare the two... My '17 Ranger gave me 12.5L/100. I drive 2km to work everyday.
    I think the prado will have better consumption, but then its a smaller motor, and a lighter car (I think).
    I would seriously consider a bicycle or something else to rather do the trip to work though, not in terms of saving fuel or anything like that, but, I dont think these big cars like such small drives everyday
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oubaard View Post
    I drive 2km to work everyday.
    I'd walk or cycle. You're not doing any car much good doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gothan View Post
    4.8 comes with rear diff. Pretty sure the 4.5 also
    all Patrols have a rear diff.................
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I'd walk or cycle. You're not doing any car much good doing that.
    Haha, I hear you...but man...Langebaan in the summer...the wind is something else!
    My temp gauge did not even move when I leave from home and arrive at work. So ja its not ideal.

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