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    My mate has this LR. Permanent 4x4 with no diff locks.

    Just used as a plaything on trails.

    So seeing that it has no diff locks, he is considering putting in manual lockers similar to what the old hilux SFA's have.

    Will this work? If so, how would he confirm which lockers to consider seeing that he did not build the vehicle himself and has no idea what diffs it has...

    Would it be possible to put the same type of manual lockers on the back diff?

    All advice would be appreciated.

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    Permanent 4x4 with no difflock is standard.
    Should have centre difflock?
    It probably still has its factory diff then, so if you can figure out which year model it is that would help, even some pic's of the diff.
    You can remove the sideshaft as well, check how many splines it has.
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    Daar was ou Landies sonder die centre lock. As ek reg was hier rondom die middel 80's.

    Ashcrofts ATB's of lockers of ARB's sal werk in die diffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crips View Post
    Permanent 4x4 with no difflock is standard.
    Should have centre difflock?
    It probably still has its factory diff then, so if you can figure out which year model it is that would help, even some pic's of the diff.
    You can remove the sideshaft as well, check how many splines it has.
    Not sure about centre diff lock. But should it have one, that just distributes power equally to front and back diff?

    Does not lock the wheels thus independant wheel spin is still possible?

    Or am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    Not sure about centre diff lock. But should it have one, that just distributes power equally to front and back diff?

    Does not lock the wheels thus independant wheel spin is still possible?

    Or am I missing something?
    All depends what model it is and what transfercase.
    If it's a Series 3 like the door handels suggest, then it won't have centre difflock
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crips View Post
    If it's a Series 3 like the door handels suggest, then it won't have centre difflock
    Spot on: series 1, 2 & 3 was part time 4x4, not full time

    If it is a hybrid, who knows what is going on.
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    if it is 4x4 it has a centre diff lock. If it is based on a 90 defender type it will have a centre diff lock to lock the front and rear propshafts together. If it based on a Series vehicle it will have part time 4x4 which still locks the centre diff (which is doesn't have since it is part time) so front and rear propshafts are locked together.

    if he wants to install aftermarket lockers on each axle, then one would need to know what axles he is running? It looks like a very modified plaything, so there is a good chance he is running salisbury diffs front and rear? Ashcrofts is probably the best place to start looking I would have thought?

    If it is some Dana variant then I guess detroit, or trutrac or similar also become options?

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    Just looking and seeing leaf springs holding it off the ground, so it must be a series underneath, although range rover chassis, shortened with series body on top, is also a popular toy amongst the modified set.

    Probably running salisbury's if that is the case.

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    Default Re: Question to the boffs

    The OP needs to take some photos of the axles and the gearbox and transfer case. That'll help.

    The first time that a "Defender" had a centre diff was in 1979 with the introduction of the V8 Stage 1.

    No Series Land Rover before or after the Stage 1 had a centre diff i.e. no diff lock.

    I know that the very first Series 1s had some sort of a permanent 4x4 system, but it was scrapped pretty quickly in favour of part time 4wd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontuin View Post
    The OP needs to take some photos of the axles and the gearbox and transfer case. That'll help.

    The first time that a "Defender" had a centre diff was in 1979 with the introduction of the V8 Stage 1.

    No Series Land Rover before or after the Stage 1 had a centre diff i.e. no diff lock.

    I know that the very first Series 1s had some sort of a permanent 4x4 system, but it was scrapped pretty quickly in favour of part time 4wd.
    Will make a plan for more pics!

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    Right took a while but managed to get these pics.

    One of them has a serial number on (for what it's worth)

    He seems to think they might be salisbury diffs?

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    Please ignore the second pic - accidently uploaded

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    Ive got a set of ARB lockers for 2 Rover diffs wit ALL connections switches compressor etc tc.

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    It will make that thing a DEMON.
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    Looks like Rover long nose diffs if that is the case you can get aftermarket diff locks, and seeing as they rover diffs so no free wheel hubs it will most prob have a LT230 you need to check that it has the center diff lock mechanism installed, if it is a series TCase it will have a low high leaver and a 4 High push down lever
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    Default Re: Question to the boffs

    Glad its just used as a plaything on trails, looks like a great fun Landy, but this steering link marvel must deserve its own award in engineering prowess....

    Either way, I guess it works, bumpsteer must be a shocker with those angles...
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    Quote Originally Posted by clivemd View Post
    Looks like Rover long nose diffs if that is the case you can get aftermarket diff locks, and seeing as they rover diffs so no free wheel hubs it will most prob have a LT230 you need to check that it has the center diff lock mechanism installed, if it is a series TCase it will have a low high leaver and a 4 High push down lever
    precisely correct

    Lockers are available for the Rover axles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcochezzi View Post
    Glad its just used as a plaything on trails, looks like a great fun Landy, but this steering link marvel must deserve its own award in engineering prowess....

    Either way, I guess it works, bumpsteer must be a shocker with those angles...
    We were looking at that ourselves yesterday!
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