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    What type of price range will this trailer retail between? Can't recall seeing anything mentioned. Forgive me if it has...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_dam10 View Post
    What type of price range will this trailer retail between? Can't recall seeing anything mentioned. Forgive me if it has...

    +1, was just about to ask!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclater View Post
    Would the tentco junior fit? It is made for a 1.45m high trailer.
    This trailer with 15's stands 1275mm high. With 14's it is 1250mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_dam10 View Post
    What type of price range will this trailer retail between? Can't recall seeing anything mentioned. Forgive me if it has...
    As a bare bones as you see it now with no nose cone, rear drawers, etc.. (but with pre-drilled holes and thought to accomodate what you want) under 40k (powercoated and in 3CR12.) Unbraked axle. When I say under 40k - like R5.00 under (and inclusive of VAT.) That's what I am aiming to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Heinz - dalk n stupid voorstel.

    Wat van die spare wheel agter, of selfs onder, en dan 'n nosecone met 'n rakkie ding bo-op??

    Selfs al is dit optional??

    daai trailer van jou lyk BAIE nice!!!
    Ek sukkel om die wiel agter weg te swaai oor 180 degrees. Hy slaan teen die syboks. Of ek moet hom na bo oplig. Ek werk nou op die agter laai om te sien hoe 'n 80liter sal pas. Ek het een nosecone opgeteken and sal 'n tweede doen wat die 80 litre sal vat. Ek se^ nie ek gaan dit alles aanbied nie, ek will net sien hoe alles moontlik kan gepas word. Ditto met ammo crates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    Well the perfect fit would be a Bundutop, give me a shout and I will sell you one
    The box length is only 1255mm, so that will be quite a big overhang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Modricky View Post
    This trailer with 15's stands 1275mm high. With 14's it is 1250mm.
    You also get the junior Tent in a 1.3m height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Modricky View Post
    Ek sukkel om die wiel agter weg te swaai oor 180 degrees. Hy slaan teen die syboks. Of ek moet hom na bo oplig. Ek werk nou op die agter laai om te sien hoe 'n 80liter sal pas. Ek het een nosecone opgeteken and sal 'n tweede doen wat die 80 litre sal vat. Ek se^ nie ek gaan dit alles aanbied nie, ek will net sien hoe alles moontlik kan gepas word. Ditto met ammo crates.
    Daar is nie 'n manier dat jy van die bokse ontslae kan raak. Sal die prys seker ook met so paar sente kan afbring?
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    Hierdie is nou 'n uitstekende idee! Kan sien hoe 'n 1.4m RTT bo-op hom sal werk.

    Nose cone hou ek van die idee van die hout rak, asook miskien 'n plek om 'n Jerrykan of twee te stoor.

    Persoonlik bly my yskas in die sleep voertuig, minder rond skud, wat dan lekker plek los vir al die ander kamp benodighede soos stoele etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclater View Post
    You also get the junior Tent in a 1.3m height.
    Yes, that will work, just hangs over the front and back a bit more than what is comfortable. I think the tentbase may need extra support as I don't this this is strong enough to overhang on its own.
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    How I mounted Jerry Cans on my small trailer. Perhaps can work on yours as well Heinz.
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    I wanted a small trailer too, and just missed one of Herman's (Fat Boy)handiwork unit, so the next best I found was a Bushwakka Shorti. I needed it as mainly a luggage trailer with 4 ammo boxes (2 food, 2 clothes) and the rest of the space for chairs, groundsheets etc. I have the freezer in the vehicle and a RTT on the vehicle as well. This was at the time when I started my Safari business, catering mostly for foreigners for whom I hire fully equipped Double cabs with RTTs.

    The trailer was needed because a DC had very little luggage space after a drawer system, a deep freeze and 4 directors chairs were put into the back. I would mean I would have some space in the trailer for their stuff as well.

    Very soon after I bought the Bushwakka I realised it was ridiculous to have two trailers, so I sold the Conqueror Supra and started making plans to fit a RTT (not TTT) on the Shorti.

    It was basically what Heinz showed as his first iteration with a roof rack on top.

    I realised that even with the roof rack, it was too low for a Tent with an awning. My RTT I bought was a 160 wide Howling moon and I planned fitting it to open backwards. I then devised a fairly light 25mm sq tube frame with legs that slid up and down through guides on the top of the roof rack, assisted by 4 gas shocks. The RTT was to be mounted on top of this frame. Once stopped, I could raise the tent and put up the awning. Once up, I have a canvass cover to cover the area between the tent and the trailer, leavibf space to put things away and out of the way when camping. I would remove them before lowering the tent when packing up.

    The tent came with aluminium slides around the edge that caravans have for attaching their tents, a perfect solution for an awning.

    I managed to fit a spare to the front, a 60lt flat tank inside the chassis legs (75MM sq tube that was galvanised) and a wood carrying rack over that spare tyre. Inside the front gas bottle area (with the canvas protection) I fitted another 40lt water tank. All the loose things (hammer, pegs, guide ropes, tie-downs, kettle lights, and 2 x 7ah batteries for trailer LED lights) went into the alu boxes mounted on the mudguards.

    Because the back door is just, just too small for a drawer system, I built a light wooden frame into which I slide 4 ammo boxes. It is separated from the front half of the trailer by a sheet of 5mm plywood. The box of the trailer is 1.2m long, it is about 1.2 m wide and about 800 to 1000 mm deep.

    So here is what I ended with:
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    More Pictures.

    On the front, above the spare tyre, I have made an alu tread-plate top with a frame around for wood & charcoal, that will eventually get a ripstop cover. I do not have all the facilities manufacturers have, but this was all done at home and with raising the tent 300mm, I can now walk under the tent and awning.

    I have the awning made to my design by a tent maker in Kemptonpark. It has 6 poles, but for a quick one night stop, I don't bother putting it up. Detaching it from the tent only takes about a minute. I normally leave it attached to the tent and it folds onto the tent and the cover still fits over the tent comfartably.

    The wheels are 15" (centres opened up to 110mm to fit the Patrol) and tyres are 31 10.6 x 15, the same OD size (well, near enough) as the 265/70 x 17s as fitted to the Patrol.

    The last picture shows the tank under the trailer as well as the 15 inch steel rims with well worn 205/50 x 15 "platkar" tyres to get it into the garage, where it sleeps.

    I am so chuffed with this little trailer, we use this as our camping trailer as well. It is tiny, light, easy to maneuver and takes ten minutes to put down the groundsheet, raise the tent on the trailer, open the tent, open out the awning and putting up the 6 poles and 10 guide ropes. I have sewed 50 mm wide Velcro to the underneath of the awning edges and have solid and shade-net sides that Velcro to 3 of the 4 sides. I only take the sides along if we are going to camp at one place for 3 or more nights. For the rest, they stay at home in a canvass bag.

    PS:

    The trailer takes 2 normal type 20lt metal Jerry cans per side; one in front of the wheel, one behind the wheel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvcoller View Post
    ... it was too low for a Tent with an awning. My RTT I bought was a 160 wide Howling moon and I planned fitting it to open backwards. I then
    did the same with my trailer...after many trail and error modifications. I didn't want to spend to much on a trailer I only use once or twice a year.

    ...after many overland trips and modifications I settled on the following,


    • Strong trailer for gravel roads with good ground clearance,
    • Low center of gravity,
    • Easy pitching of tent if arriving in the dark, no poles, ground sheets and tent pegs. We once arrived at Kubu island after 10 pm after a very wet road, we then had to pitch ground tents with all the hassles such as rock hard ground, mud and uneven surface.
    • Fitted a HM Stargazer 1.8. Sleeps 3 very easily. Made a custom annexure, used it once...no real need for it if you camp in remote areas.
    • 140 l water on board
    • 80 liter ROAMER coolbag in the back of trailer. Keeps ice for days


    Setup was not that expensive, bought the xt120 new for R 39K plus RTT.....still under price range for many other trailers giving the same use

    I think the new metalian hits the nail on the head!

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    How will this trailor compare to the mini? Is'nt the mini allready in the small bracket of trailors made for this purpose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandveld View Post
    How will this trailor compare to the mini? Is'nt the mini allready in the small bracket of trailors made for this purpose?
    The "mini" Bowhunter is 1650 mm long, has cupboards both sides 400 mm deep, is built over the mudguards so the box is 1500mm wide, and has a fridge door in front of the wheel arch. Has a total of 5 doors. The rear has recovery points and rearbar/swingarm assembly, deeper belly that can take 2 x 65 litre water tanks and 2 x 105 amp batteries. Braked axle with run-in coupler.

    The Genie is 1250mm long, only has one cupboard 400mm deep, is built inside the mudguards so the box 1150 mm wide, and only has two doors. We also eliminate the expensive 304 grade stainless steel locking bars and the deep panelled doors. Unbraked axle - maximum tyre size 15 inch.

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    Thankz Heinz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Modricky View Post
    Ek sukkel om die wiel agter weg te swaai oor 180 degrees. Hy slaan teen die syboks. Of ek moet hom na bo oplig. Ek werk nou op die agter laai om te sien hoe 'n 80liter sal pas. Ek het een nosecone opgeteken and sal 'n tweede doen wat die 80 litre sal vat. Ek se^ nie ek gaan dit alles aanbied nie, ek will net sien hoe alles moontlik kan gepas word. Ditto met ammo crates.
    Hi Heinz, please enlighten a dummy. Why would the rear spare wheel need to open more that 180 degrees? To open the rear door, surely you would only need to open it 90 degrees, anything more than that is a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyP View Post
    Hi Heinz, please enlighten a dummy. Why would the rear spare wheel need to open more that 180 degrees? To open the rear door, surely you would only need to open it 90 degrees, anything more than that is a bonus.
    You're right, I'm possibly over-complicating this. It was just for a tent consideration. With no doors on the "clothing" side, I considered a rear room/awning that would be slightly deeper, and a 90 degree wheel in this are would impact on this.

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    Good stuff with the explanation. My opinion in broad terms is that this trailer should be aimed more at being an offroad utility trailer that can be customized as opposed to a basic camping trailer that makes allowances/provision for all the fancy stuff people may want in a kitted out camping trailer. There are many existing options for the camping trailer variety.

    I would imagine that trying to accommodate the people who want to eventually customize their trailer into a full blown camping trailer creates the need to make provision for easy customisation and this will increase the cost of the basic unit. This implies that those who will keep it as is, will be subsidizing those that intend to kit it out. Those that want to have a fully kitted trailer eventualy already have many options out there.

    I think you'll find that your prospective customers for this trailer will be those that ground camp, keep their fridges in the vehicle, don't want to overload their vehicles, but need space to haul their camping equipment and other odds and ends with them. Your prototype fills this need admirably.
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