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    I stay on a Agricultural Holding next to a open piece of land that is owned by the state.

    Every morning and evening the guineafowls come around to our house and we feed them with pellets, through local poaching (guys from the informal settlement or squatter camps with dogs) they bring their dogs into the open veld and take out the remaining rabbits and guineafowl, the numbers have been reduced from 15+ to 4. This season there was eleven babies and now we are down to 3 babies left.
    I have warned the guys that it is private property and called security but these poachers just continue to come back... what can a person do
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    This is just terrible. What will they do when nothing is left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blind View Post
    This is just terrible. What will they do when nothing is left?
    Exactly, we have for the last 12 years been trying to build up the numbers by feeding them, but it seems we are only fattening them up for the poachers. Unfortunately I think they will not stop until every last piece of open land has been completely poached of any living animal.
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    Collective based societies often exhibit an anti-conceptual mindset, in other words, they lack the ability to create an abstract from an abstract. For example, conservation, like maintenance, is an abstract concept. Why provide now for a possible event in the future?

    Combine this with the Tragedy of the Commons (The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action)

    An example: I have personally observed Pickers in Warehouses go to Bin Locations and pick items. The same Picker has picked the last item and then receives a new instruction to return to the same Bin and pick the same item, only to be absolutely puzzled to find no items in the location. You might find that hard to believe but, sadly, its true.

    Conservation, maintenance, food reserves and security, are abstract concepts.

    Sad but leave them to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Collective based societies often exhibit an anti-conceptual mindset, in other words, they lack the ability to create an abstract from an abstract. For example, conservation, like maintenance, is an abstract concept. Why provide now for a possible event in the future?

    Combine this with the Tragedy of the Commons (The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action)

    An example: I have personally observed Pickers in Warehouses go to Bin Locations and pick items. The same Picker has picked the last item and then receives a new instruction to return to the same Bin and pick the same item, only to be absolutely puzzled to find no items in the location. You might find that hard to believe but, sadly, its true.

    Conservation, maintenance, food reserves and security, are abstract concepts.

    Sad but leave them to it.
    Agree, need some positive leadership in the informal settlements.

    The hunting dogs have imo been bought into the informal settlements as they have already poached out their homeland areas. So no use having them at home so lets take them back with us. The other unfortunate situation is the condition of these dogs...very sad. After the dogs have caught their rabbits or guineafowl it is taken away from them to be eaten by the dog owners or sold.
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    Default Re: What to do about local poachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Collective based societies often exhibit an anti-conceptual mindset, in other words, they lack the ability to create an abstract from an abstract. For example, conservation, like maintenance, is an abstract concept. Why provide now for a possible event in the future?

    Combine this with the Tragedy of the Commons (The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action)

    An example: I have personally observed Pickers in Warehouses go to Bin Locations and pick items. The same Picker has picked the last item and then receives a new instruction to return to the same Bin and pick the same item, only to be absolutely puzzled to find no items in the location. You might find that hard to believe but, sadly, its true.

    Conservation, maintenance, food reserves and security, are abstract concepts.

    Sad but leave them to it.
    Philosopher at work, big time.
    How does this assist the anti poaching - can you elaborate please.
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    Default Re: What to do about local poachers

    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Collective based societies often exhibit an anti-conceptual mindset, in other words, they lack the ability to create an abstract from an abstract. For example, conservation, like maintenance, is an abstract concept. Why provide now for a possible event in the future?

    Combine this with the Tragedy of the Commons (The tragedy of the commons is a situation in a shared-resource system where individual users acting independently according to their own self-interest behave contrary to the common good of all users by depleting or spoiling that resource through their collective action)

    An example: I have personally observed Pickers in Warehouses go to Bin Locations and pick items. The same Picker has picked the last item and then receives a new instruction to return to the same Bin and pick the same item, only to be absolutely puzzled to find no items in the location. You might find that hard to believe but, sadly, its true.

    Conservation, maintenance, food reserves and security, are abstract concepts.

    Sad but leave them to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalahari Safari View Post
    Philosopher at work, big time.
    How does this assist the anti poaching - can you elaborate please.
    It doesnt, hence my final comment: ''leave them to it''. Ditto the Rhino, Elephant, Lion, Mossie etc.

    Extinction stops poaching.
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