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    So the claim is that with only oil/lube/coolents (I am not exactly sure what they replace but it is only fluids) these guys (I will keep their name secret for now to avoid a possible brand bash) can increase Kw, B.H.P and Nm quite a bit.

    The test were done on the new Ford 2.0l bi turbo.

    Is this even remotely possible by just adding better or patented or secret (or whatever) liquids (oil/lube/coolant etc.) into your diesel engine or parts thereof? No other changes are made and this is Ford approved. It get's done at the garage where you service your vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-Namibia View Post
    Nitrox?
    Sorry, fixed the misleading part. Not into your diesel itself but into the diesel engine or parts thereof (engine oil and coolant etc.).
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    A extra 30 kW for free with just fluids changed ..... Ja swaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew123 View Post
    So the claim is that with only oil/lube/coolents (I am not exactly sure what they replace but it is only fluids) these guys (I will keep their name secret for now to avoid a possible brand bash) can increase Kw, B.H.P and Nm quite a bit.

    The test were done on the new Ford 2.0l bi turbo.

    Is this even remotely possible by just adding better or patented or secret (or whatever) liquids (oil/lube/coolant etc.) into your diesel engine or parts thereof? No other changes are made and this is Ford approved. It get's done at the garage where you service your vehicle.
    To answer your question, it seems hard to believe , although it's a new engine and it's quite advanced of its own...

    http://unsealed4x4.com.au/need-know-...diesel-engine/

    Probably just a ploy to sell something.

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    the first run they used peanut butter.
    the second run they used actual engine oil

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    They are doing their first T6 3.2l next week and then I can get the reports on that as well.

    It just seems unreal that only fluid can do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew123 View Post
    They are doing their first T6 3.2l next week and then I can get the reports on that as well.

    It just seems unreal that only fluid can do this.
    In 1963 it seemed unreal that a 900cc turbo will be able to churn out the power they can these days. I'll raise my eyebrow for now, but I might possibly be eating my hat soon. Technology is flying these days

    But somebody needs to ask the hard questions:...is it 2SO?...
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    So let us, for the moment, say it is not possible.

    Does that mean the tuner bamboozles his dyna (and the customer) somehow to show these results?

    If I am not mistaken these measurements are on the wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterOos View Post
    Exactly what I was thinking...

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    Using 0W30 oil may help a bit, but nothing like these figures show...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ-Namibia View Post
    Nitrox?
    Prolong type additives to all oils?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterOos View Post
    Me too, but Andrew has made quite a few more posts than Theomarx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    Me too, but Andrew has made quite a few more posts than Theomarx.
    I call BS. Why would a manufacturer spend Billions on eaking out the last few extra % of power if he could just safely substitute the oils to get 20% more.

    What I say has to be fact because I have over 18,000 posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    I call BS. Why would a manufacturer spend Billions on eaking out the last few extra % of power if he could just safely substitute the oils to get 20% more.

    What I say has to be fact because I have over 18,000 posts.
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    It is the bigest lot of snake oil boulderdash ever but.............................my late brother had a Cortina 3l v6 that was tuned like none of the stealers could. One year just before we left for Natal with caravans in tow he dropped a bottle of Slick 50 in the engine. When we made our Harismith pit stop he had to pull the idling down on the Cortina. Harismith is still at altitude as the main drop is Van Reenen so that is out of the picture.

    I changed from Shell helix to Edge full synthetic 10W 60. The idling shot up as soon as I started and took a while to settle again, my engine ran cooler and my power was better with a drop in consumption....... if I could resist the need for speed.

    So no scientific back up just everyday seat of the pants experience. We have vowed to do a test next time we get to a dyno but like many new years resolutions it just does not happen. Usually we are too busy tuning to do anything else

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    if you want to take a drive to petit/putfontein twice I am happy to do some before runs on my dyno and after runs - for free for anybody that wants to bother to test it.
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    Coming along way with building performance engines I know how hard it is to make an extra kw or two on a normal aspirated engine.
    Sure if friction is reduced you will see a power increase. In today`s time with scientific designed lubricants I cannot see a very large increase in power. 30kw Definitely not. maybe 0.5kw to 1kw. As said I even doubt that in these modern times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Coming along way with building performance engines I know how hard it is to make an extra kw or two on a normal aspirated engine.
    Sure if friction is reduced you will see a power increase. In today`s time with scientific designed lubricants I cannot see a very large increase in power. 30kw Definitely not. maybe 0.5kw to 1kw. As said I even doubt that in these modern times.
    Exactly. Modern oils are already formulated for best efficiency.
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