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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    Or this, but I'd still also go underneath to give the floor a bit of relief, too. Or those monster fender washers would do, too.
    GREAT advise thanks, didnt think of that!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Thanks for great advise - again.

    My plan is to have some sort of canvas storage bag thing there, for books/phones/whatever, and have the bag "sunken" into the veneer (that's already taken off there anyway), hence I'm thinking of something sturdy(ish) to attach that bag to.

    The rest of the timber underneath and lower looks and sounds 100%, I've poked everywhere with a long needle and knife and I dont get anything soft/moist/rotten.

    I think I'll just put a frame in there with one or 2 "uprights".
    Petri, there’s damp there left corner. The dark area. Check that out, before you close up with bed.

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    Okey Dokey, soos Oom Hannibal the Cannibal vir Ray Liotta se voor hy sy brein beginne braai..............

    Floor done with sealer, some Woodoc 10 I think, looks VERY nice

    Tomorrow is square tubing under the bedframes' feet, then "shock feet" underneath the van (square metal thingies, about 80 x 80 mm), and attach the bedframes not to, but THROUGH the floor.

    Then lift-up lids for the beds, and that's it, mattresses can go in.8)
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    Guys - help me here. I'm having 2 minds between Island bed of Offcenter bed.

    island bed is easier to make up, easier to get in/out, and the one does'nt lie against the wall.

    Offcenter bed - only advantage here is that I have space for a (very shallow) little cupboard next to the wall.

    ............Island Bed??

    There's SO much packing space underneath the beds now, I'm planning to make canvas sakkies en akkies and whatchamakolits everywhere, so an Offcenter Bed just for the sake of a little kassie suddenly seems like a dom idea.
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    I would go with a Queen (152*188 or Queen with extra length 155*200) (I seem to think that I read that yours is 155 wide and 195 long - why non-standard?) Island Bed - Use a standard size normal mattress in the centre. As you have said,easier to make up, one person does not feel cramped up against a cold sidewall (I had this in my 1995 Fleetline XL and it was NOT pleasant in the middle of winter), can get out both sides of the bed, etc.
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    Island Style is the Style then..................8)

    Definitely. I misjudged some stuff here, like the lid wo'nt be able to open up also if its an offcenter setup.
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    Guys sorry, another dommerige question

    I'm only putting 2 x angle iron each under the bedframes, not 4.........those ysters are heavy.

    Do I put them in the length or width of the caravan??

    Which of the 2 will make the floor even stronger??

    I'm thinking width??
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    Longer side - so length...... but that's just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Trollope View Post
    Longer side - so length...... but that's just my opinion
    O moer.

    Ek het breedte gevat.

    By voorste bed dus die lang kant, agterste bed die breedte.

    Nogal 'n HELSE job om die rame van onder af vas te kry, ek boor so hier en daar die chassis raak.

    Nie ek nie - my laaitie. Eks bang die boor gly of iets en ek maak myself seer.

    Ek supervise net.8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Guys sorry, another dommerige question

    I'm only putting 2 x angle iron each under the bedframes, not 4.........those ysters are heavy.

    Do I put them in the length or width of the caravan??

    Which of the 2 will make the floor even stronger??

    I'm thinking width??
    I think angles is OTT, personally. Flat bar, 50x3 should do it or even 50x50x3 under each foot is what I would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    I think angles is OTT, personally. Flat bar, 50x3 should do it or even 50x50x3 under each foot is what I would do.
    John - yes, I only used angle on the front bed frame, and decided against it at the rear. I sommer used leaf spring "cups" - 80mm squares.

    Came out OK, and it's "hidden" anyway. Looks like it will last.

    And that floor is VERY solid now.

    Just want to fix up that front window frame quickly today, and put lids on the bed frames.......the kids need the van for Lush Festival tomorrow.

    So far so good.

    I'm not happy with the rear bolts of the bedframe through the floor and alu oustide, but will sort it next week.
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    Front Bedframe in, lid on.

    I've used a heavyish wood - Superwood 12mm. Its a bit heavier than the flimsy ones.

    Hinges fitted.

    I'll just add shocks next week some time.

    HUGE space underneath.

    Will close up the fronts with alu chequered plate.

    I used 3mm angle to secure it with.

    Not a Professional's job by a LOOOONG shot, but look OK, and I'm having TONNES of fun with my son.
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    Rear Bedframe also almost fixed. Here I used square "leaf shock feet", about 15mm thick, and will also use only one angle in front, so that things dont slide around, and I have a secure fixing point for alu plate in front............and it strengthened that floor IMMENSELY.

    VERY glad I did the island bed thing.
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    Those "feet"I used to attach it to the floor (rear bed).

    Everything is attached through the (double) floor , underneath I used 30-50mm square blocks as "washers".

    VERY solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    Front Bedframe in, lid on.

    I've used a heavyish wood - Superwood 12mm. Its a bit heavier than the flimsy ones.

    Hinges fitted.

    I'll just add shocks next week some time.

    HUGE space underneath.

    Will close up the fronts with alu chequered plate.

    I used 3mm angle to secure it with.

    Not a Professional's job by a LOOOONG shot, but look OK, and I'm having TONNES of fun with my son.
    Ditch the supawood and use shutter ply of the same thickness. Give it a light sanding and seal it and you won't be sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    Ditch the supawood and use shutter ply of the same thickness. Give it a light sanding and seal it and you won't be sorry.
    John, why - weight??

    Thanks a mill8)
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    Weight, yes, but strength was more my thinking.
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    A lady just up the road with whom we socialize is a Gypsy. Her grand children and my grandchildren play together. Not joking, the real thing with the traditions and all.

    Let me tell you, I wouldn’t fool around with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    Weight, yes, but strength was more my thinking.
    Will look into that thanks John.

    Must say, that double bed board is a handful to lift - and that's without the thick (nice, expensive!!) mattress I got with the van.

    Thanks anyway.8)
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