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    Hey Guys,

    My Terrano is a 4x4 again. I got it back last week Tuesday and I left for Ladysmith and the Drankensberg areas on an ABW tour with friends. Some of the battlefields were over bad dirt roads and tracks, some more, and some less muddy.

    Well, what a pleasure to have the front LSD working again like it should. I even had to recover a LC Prado that got stuck in the mud. I must say that it was possibly due to the fairly worn tar road type tyres. I have now recovered a Colt 4x4 3.0 petrol, a Isuzu 4x4 2,8 D and now the LC Prado 3.0TD, and have never had to be recovered myself.

    I must really thank Mike Swann of Nizani and Warren from Gearmax (who for a fixed price fits the diffs that Mike imports), who really brought their sides in this whole unfortunate saga.

    I also want to warn people not to make use of the services of RACECRAFT in Booysens in Jhb. They were the people responsible for the problem in the first place and then refused to make good for poor workmanship. They did not want guarantee their work when it all went wrong!!

    For those who don't know, I bought an LS unit for the front of the Terrano from Mike Swann who imported it from the USA. We imported a LS unit for the Nissan R180 diff, only to discover that the Terrano uses a R180a front diff. No LS units are available for the R180a diff.

    The R180a diff has a thicker side shaft and has 27 splines; the R180 LS unit needs a slightly thinner side shaft with 25 splines. Gearmax, as the fitters, then removed the LS unit again, refitted the standard diff whist we were trying to find out what to do. At this point I asked that the diff (not the side shafts) should be modified. At least that way I could always revert back to a standard diff.

    Racecraft (the engineering works that Gearmax use when they modify side shafts and diffs) said the best would be to machine down the side shafts to remove the 27 splines, weld up the side shaft, and then cut 25 splines onto the welded shafts. They would then re-harden the side shafts. That all at a cost of R1000 to me, a bargain at the price they said....

    This was against my initial wishes, but who am I, a mere IT Technician... they were the experts.

    Gearmax again stripped the Terrano diff and removed the side shafts for modification. A week later the Terrano was back and I took it to Base 4 to try it out. Mike Swann was there and the Terrano was a star. The new diff worked like a charm.

    A week later we had the Terrano Week-end at Hennops and unbeknown to me, BOTH front side shafts snapped on the 3rd obstacle. I had some hairy moments for the rest of the ride, and managed all the obstacles, except for that long steep hill with the serious rock climb right at the top. The Terrano could not make that. Going down in reverse (WITHOUT POWER ON THE FRONT WHEELS) was hairy, and I nearly lost it. No-one could work out why the Terrano nearly flipped when the nose wanted to pass the tail. In hindsight, we now know it was because there was no drive on the front wheels!!

    Two weeks later in the Drankensberg I (and only then) found out that there was no drive on the front wheels, so back the Terrano went to Gearmax, and again they stripped the front diff, to inspect the reason for the lack of front wheel drive. They discovered that both front drive shafts had a slight twist and had broken off like a carrot would, should you twist it.

    I now sat with a 2WD Terrano. Gearmax and Mike took the whole lot back to RACECRAFT, who then came up with the story that they could not warrantee their work as they did not know the properties of the material that the drive shafts were made of, hence they could not harden them accordingly and hence they could not warrantee their work. (Who in their right mind would make a drive shaft of un-tempered steel, I ask you with tears in my eyes?) They were however prepared to make me 2 new shafts at about R4800!!

    By now it was mid November and no engineering works was prepared to accept new work until January. I needed the Terrano to go to the Kruger Park over December, so Mike and Gearmax searched high and low for a solution, but time was against them. Again Gearmax refitted everything, including the snapped-off front side shafts, and off I went on my holiday with my 4x2 Nissan Terrano.

    By Mid January, the Terrano was back at Gearmax, who by this time, could take the diff apart with their eyes closed and one hand tied behind their backs. Mike started shopping around and managed to get a Nissan 4cyl diff that uses the same side shafts as the Terrano does, he really bargained hard and managed the get the diff (minus the CVs) for R1500 from “one Tonner Spares” in Pretoria.

    He also found an engineering works in Centurion that does a lot of Defence Dept type work and who was prepared to spark-erode the internals of the diff to match the standard side shafts. This at a cost of R900-00 for the two sides and despite weeks and weeks worth of other work waiting, it was done within a week, again thanks due to Mike’s negotiation skills.

    This all went back to Gearmax on Monday last week and by Tuesday the Terrano was ready. Gearmax did not charge me anything for all the extra stripping and assembly and I offered Mike R200-00 for all the petrol he rode out looking for the right diff and for someone who could and would do the mods required. It cost me an extra R2600-00 in the end, but what a relief that all is now OK.

    I also know that I will never make use of the services of Racecraft, I will dissuade everyone I come across who may want to use their services. I know that Mike Swann will never ever make use of them again and I doubt that Gearmax will ever make use of then in future.

    So guys, if you ever need the services of Nizani or of Gearmax, you can rest assured that they will stand by you should you hit a snag.

    Malcolm
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    Malcolm van Coller - retired but remained living in Johannesburg (love it here, can find everything you want and need here in Jhb)
    2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (Standard Traction Control plus Front Diff Locker)
    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    good day

    Does anyone maybe know of a "specialist" i could take my terranoII to so it could be looked over?

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    Question Nissan Terrano II 2.7

    I bought a terrano II 2.7 2000 model with only km160000 on the clock. I only have it for a week now. The total kms driven about km500.

    Then all of a sudden this vehicle started making a noise it feels like the front passenger wheel. But the noise sound scary. It is all quiet then all of a sudden there is a krrrrrrrr sound and then a bang sound.after that it is quiet again. I changed the brake pads when I investigated as I thought the brakes are binding. Also did the front suspension. I checked the hubs but they look okay.

    Please can someone give me advice?

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    To me it sounds like the problem I had when I replaced the left front CV on my Terrano and the guys I took it to assembled the order of the parts in the auto locking hub incorrectly when they put it back together.

    This mangled the parts into small bits and pieces of copper and metal. I was lucky to get 2nd hand part to repair it, but I had to strip the whole hub, wash the copper and iron flakes out ot the wheel beaarings and everywhere else.

    If you can't get the parts (R14k plus for one new auto locking hub from Nissan at the time), for R1k you can buy manual locking hubs from Commercial auto parts and fit them yourself. Count the splines on your sideshaft to make sure you get the right self locking hubs. The come with either 27, 28 or 29 splines!

    I will find the picture out of my manual and post it here for you. There it shows the order in which the assembly must be done.
    Malcolm van Coller - retired but remained living in Johannesburg (love it here, can find everything you want and need here in Jhb)
    2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (Standard Traction Control plus Front Diff Locker)
    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    Default 4x4 auto hubs

    Here is one pic, I have a better one somewhere, just trying to find it
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    Malcolm van Coller - retired but remained living in Johannesburg (love it here, can find everything you want and need here in Jhb)
    2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (Standard Traction Control plus Front Diff Locker)
    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    Default More Auto hubs

    Look at this too, it has more detail:
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    Malcolm van Coller - retired but remained living in Johannesburg (love it here, can find everything you want and need here in Jhb)
    2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (Standard Traction Control plus Front Diff Locker)
    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    I downloaded the doc, but cannot open it on my tablet? Help?

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    Sorry, it opens, but is gibberish

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    I have excaliburs for swb terrano if anyone is interested.

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    Default Re: My Terrano is a 4x4 again

    Hi

    I a looking for Mike's phone number. Can anyone help? I cant find his number on his site and I don't any reply on emails that I sent.

    Please mail me on [email protected]

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