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    Im looking to help my dad out as his cars are both ageing and one is heavy on fuel

    Corsa 1.7d now 12 years old starting to show its age
    hilux2.4Dc petrol SFD great but the fuel is killing them

    they love to do these month long trips round the country but the fuel bill is to much now and starting to stop them going on these trips and they cant take the corsa as they do off the beaten track roads, and dont leave home with out the border collie dog. they either tow a venter trailer or small ski vee boat

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    renault duster 4x4 reasonable space and fuel efficient
    suzuki jimny looks a bit small and cramped
    toyota 2.4 hulux bit over the budget

    am i missing any vehicles here the main thing would be fuel consumption of over 12km to the liter minimum

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    Budget?

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    Budget?
    4x4 ability required?
    space required?
    petrol/diesel?
    new/secondhand - if so what mileage?
    etc.
    etc.

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    Keep in mind cost of ownership, newer and more fuel efficient equals more expensive purchase price and possibly more expensive to maintain especially if something goes wrong. Often old reliable donkey that drinks a little to much is less costly and way less hassle over the long term.

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    I find that the 4x4 part is highly overrated - it makes vehicles thirsty and their prices rocket.
    I own one and makes use of the 4x4 about 6x per year - and then it is not even necessary.
    So unless it is your weekend hobby stay away from it.
    And fuel consumption is debatable - check out fuelly.com for what people are reporting. I found that keeping to 100 km/hr is the best way of decreasing my fuel consumption. Responsible driving is the best way to minimise fuel consumption.
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    The first though that comes to mind is to get a softroader like the duster or FLII etc. Budget is very important for us to provide proper assistance
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post

    renault duster 4x4 reasonable space and fuel efficient
    suzuki jimny looks a bit small and cramped
    toyota 2.4 hilux bit over the budget
    These 2 are good. Organise for your folks to test drive them both. Now run away from this thread before all manner of crazy suggestions and disastrous vehicles come up.

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    petrol or diesol
    300k
    new or demo type milage
    2 people and a dog
    4x4 is for pulling boat on sandy roads to kosi ect out of slipways in richards bay, i dont think it 100 percent nessary but if you have only ever owned a 4x4 vehicle it is a mind set thing just like the 17k fuel bill down to the cape last year makes them think twice about doing it again

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    Also evaluate the assistance from companies for their products.
    Here I refer to the spares basket prices that gets published form time to time.
    And I think that a nice trailer can supply the space needed for trips instead of oveloading the vehicle. There are lots on offer from people who donít need theirs anymore.
    You have not mentioned where your folks stay when they tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post
    petrol or diesol
    300k
    new or demo type milage
    2 people and a dog
    4x4 is for pulling boat on sandy roads to kosi ect out of slipways in richards bay, i dont think it 100 percent nessary but if you have only ever owned a 4x4 vehicle it is a mind set thing just like the 17k fuel bill down to the cape last year makes them think twice about doing it again
    Not sure about the Duster and the boat(although power to weight it is on par with many bigger vehicles) but it is awesome on sand when you learn how to drive it.
    But for R300k there is a massive pool of 4x4 vehicles that will not break the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REAList View Post
    I find that the 4x4 part is highly overrated - it makes vehicles thirsty and their prices rocket.
    I own one and makes use of the 4x4 about 6x per year - and then it is not even necessary.
    So unless it is your weekend hobby stay away from it.
    I must say I can't agree with this. I use my 4x4 even less than you but I want (and more importantly need) it for school holidays. I go to the coast (only beaches where I can drive on) and without it, the holiday would not be possible.

    I have done it with the Kuga but you always worry about possibly getting stuck in really thick hot sand and another issue is the ground clearance. Going over the dune at Sodwana damaged the plastic underbody because some idiots tried it with their 2x4 and spinned the ramp [email protected]#rtoe. A long time ago they checked whether you are a 4x4 but seems they don't do this anymore. In Mozambique the ramp can get real ugly with the boats getting stuck there. While I would make it with the Kuga, I would have to drive faster than I want to and again possibly risk damaging the vehicle.

    So for these people who actually do use it for 4x4 trips it would be a necessity. Yes the purchase price is more and the fuel usage more than the equivalent 2x4 but if you use it, it is a must.

    To the OP - I don't have a vehicle in mind but well done for trying to help.

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    What about replacing the engine in their existing Hilux with a 2,5 diesel from the Hilux range that was recently replaced. I doubt you'll get a similar vehicle that'll give 12km/liter or more. Not even the Jimny does that.

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    I would take these as prerequisites:
    1. Safety
    2. Auto transmission
    3. Reliability
    4. Space to suite the needs
    5. Easy access
    6. Comfort
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuanB View Post
    The first though that comes to mind is to get a softroader like the duster or FLII etc. Budget is very important for us to provide proper assistance
    ^^ This. Even if the FL2 is a little older, the SD4 engine on the FL2 is frugal on fuel, surprising on power, brilliant in comfort, capable off-road (in it's class).

    Would be my number 1 choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post
    petrol or diesol
    300k
    new or demo type milage
    2 people and a dog
    4x4 is for pulling boat on sandy roads to kosi ect out of slipways in richards bay, i dont think it 100 percent nessary but if you have only ever owned a 4x4 vehicle it is a mind set thing just like the 17k fuel bill down to the cape last year makes them think twice about doing it again
    Ok, didn't see this just now... the FL2 gets my vote hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post
    petrol or diesol
    300k
    new or demo type milage
    2 people and a dog
    4x4 is for pulling boat on sandy roads to kosi ect out of slipways in richards bay, i dont think it 100 percent nessary but if you have only ever owned a 4x4 vehicle it is a mind set thing just like the 17k fuel bill down to the cape last year makes them think twice about doing it again
    single cab ranger auto 2.2 4x4

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    please let FL2
    not be a land drover free lander 2 a horse and buggie is a better idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post
    please let FL2
    not be a land drover free lander 2 a horse and buggie is a better idea
    I think your perception of a Land Rover Freelander 2 be updated asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vidalbum View Post
    please let FL2
    not be a land drover free lander 2 a horse and buggie is a better idea
    Told you things would get messy. They ' ll suggest Mahindras soon.
    Run while you can!

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    Because of the dog I would look at a double cab, 2.4 SRX would be my first choice but well over budget......demo KB 250?? You can also ditch the trailer which is always a worry on a trip.
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