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    Planning our second trip to Namibia with great excitement!

    Our route will be:
    Pretoria
    Upington (overnight stop)
    Cross at Ariamsvlei/Nakop
    Canyon Roadhouse campsite --> 2 nights
    Klein Aus Vista Desert horse campsite --> 2 nights via Rosh Pinah (Day trip to Lüderitz for Kolmanskop, etc)
    Namibrand Family hideout --> 1 night
    Sesriem via D707 --> 2 nights
    Rooisand campsite --> 1 night stop over to compensate for the bad road and have apple tart at Solitaire
    Swakop --> 4 nights camp at Sophiadale and do Living Desert tour, moon landscape, maybe day trip to Walvisbay
    Spitzkoppe --> 2 nights
    Erindi --> 2 nights
    Somewhere near Grunau--> 1 night
    and then retrace our steps back home.

    Plus minus 21 days round trip.

    My first, most pressing questions are:

    1. Which tour operator for the Living Desert tour in Swakop?

    2. On what days will the MET office be open over the period of 23 - 26 December to get a permit for the moon landscape and welwitchia's?

    8)
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    Default Re: Namibia trip planning, Dec 2019, the south west

    can not answer your questions,only can say

    we are at
    Klein Aus Vista 17-19

    Swakop 20-23

    maybe our paths will cross?

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    Default Re: Namibia trip planning, Dec 2019, the south west

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    1. Which tour operator for the Living Desert tour in Swakop?
    Tommys would my choice be .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jadranko View Post
    can not answer your questions,only can say

    we are at
    Klein Aus Vista 17-19

    Swakop 20-23

    maybe our paths will cross?
    Same dates for Klein Aus Vista yes. We only arrive in Swakop on the 23rd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    2. On what days will the MET office be open over the period of 23 - 26 December to get a permit for the moon landscape and welwitchia's?
    8)
    You can almost certainly get the permits from the MET office at Sesriem, although I won't swear blind on this... give them a call and check.
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    Thanks Tony. So it is possible to get the permits ahead of time then? If we need the permit for the 25 or 26th, can we buy it already on say the 23rd when we arrive in Swakop? And is the permit for a specific day or 24 hr period?
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    We did a Southern Namibia trip in December starting at Augrabies and then through to the Richtersveld, Fish River Canyon, Luderitz, Sesriem, Naukluft park, Swakop and Spitzkoppe.
    Definitely Not the most pressing question but the Helmeringhausen apple tart is the gold standard, followed closely by Goanikontes Oasis . HH is on the C13, a slightly different route to what you are planning but you may pass the Goanikontes Oasis if you do the moon landscape.
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    You can try Charly’s Desert Tours they are based in Swakop. Their rates seem to be better than a couple of other calls we made (we were 10 people).

    We booked 3 tours with them in Dec ‘18. All 3 they collected and dropped us at Hotel and service was great.

    We did
    1. Sandwhich Harbour - Sandwaves operator was unbelievable, stopping in desert and showing us some of the animals (gecko etc), with lovely lunch on the beach.
    2. Namib Desert tour - trip to moon landscape and a peak at the welwitschia’s
    3. Catamaran trip

    Their website is http://www.charlysdeserttours.com/english/
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Thanks Tony. So it is possible to get the permits ahead of time then? If we need the permit for the 25 or 26th, can we buy it already on say the 23rd when we arrive in Swakop? And is the permit for a specific day or 24 hr period?
    That I don't know - I'm pretty sure you can buy them in advance, it's been awhile since I last bought permits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Planning our second trip to Namibia with great excitement!

    Our route will be:
    Pretoria
    Upington (overnight stop)
    Cross at Ariamsvlei/Nakop
    Hobas --> 2 nights
    Klein Aus Vista Desert horse campsite --> 2 nights via Rosh Pinah (Day trip to Lüderitz for Kolmanskop, etc)
    Sesriem via D707 --> 3 nights
    RockStock Ritz --> 1 night stop over to compensate for the bad road and have apple tart at Solitaire Daar is GEEN koelte by Rockstock RItz nie. en dit is Desember. TOe ons met die GTG daar was, was dit 48 grade. Ek sal eerder kyk na ander opsies soos by SOliter lodge se kampplek of een van die kampplekke in die park soos Bloedkoppe of ander . My opinie.
    Swakop --> 4 nights camp at Sophiadale and do Living Desert tour, moon landscape, maybe day trip to Walvisbay
    Spitzkoppe --> 2 nights
    Erindi --> 2 nights
    Bagatelle --> 1 night
    and then retrace our steps back home.

    Plus minus 21 days round trip.

    My first, most pressing questions are:

    1. Which tour operator for the Living Desert tour in Swakop?

    2. On what days will the MET office be open over the period of 23 - 26 December to get a permit for the moon landscape and welwitchia's? Die kantore is elke dag oop en dalk net soggens maar jy kan daar permit kry. Jy kan ook die prermit koop sy Sossosvlei se kantore maar jy moet die presiese datum he.

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    Dit lyk goed.
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    Ag dankie Elize, jy is 'n ster!

    Ek het op Rockstock se website gesien dat daar geen skaduwee is nie, dit het my nogal bekommer. Maar dit lyk lekker halfpad tussen Swakop en Sossusvlei. Waar is Bloedkoppie, ek kry dit nie op die kaart nie? Iemand anders het dit ook vir my genoem.

    En watter kamp plekke is daar alles om Solitaire?
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    Op T4A - Blutkuppe/Bloedkoppie Campsite (Unmanned/Permit Required), S22 50 38.5 E15 23 03.8
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    Christa, when we were in Swakop we did the desert tour with https://www.livingdesertnamibia.com/index.html. Highly recommended by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Waar is Bloedkoppie, ek kry dit nie op die kaart nie? Iemand anders het dit ook vir my genoem.

    En watter kamp plekke is daar alles om Solitaire?
    Solitaire self het kamplekke , maar seker te naby aan Sosus. Bloedkoppie is dalk bietjie uit die pad, maar daar is mooi bome.

    In Nuakluft park is heelwat onbemande kamplekke. T4A wys almal. n Ander opsie is om D2186 te ry,
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    Johan, ja, Bloedkoppie lyk bietjie uit die pad. Sal mooi gaan kyk waar D2186 loop, nou by die werk en my T4A kaart is tuis.

    Does anybody have knowledge or experience with Namibia Valley of a Thousand hills campsite? Their website shows stunning vistas and views but the three stand themselves look very small and 'tatty' on the website. It is a bit out of the way, but not as much as Bloedkoppie.
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    Google bietjie Mirabib hill campsites in the park
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Planning our second trip to Namibia with great excitement!

    Our route will be:
    Pretoria
    Upington (overnight stop)

    Monate Lodge so 7 km noord van Upington is okay

    Cross at Ariamsvlei/Nakop
    Hobas --> 2 nights

    Tussen Hobas en Klein Aus Vista is Kalkofen Lodge net af van die B 4 op die D 462 Shanty City is die kamp se naam.

    Klein Aus Vista Desert horse campsite --> 2 nights via Rosh Pinah (Day trip to Lüderitz for Kolmanskop, etc)
    Sesriem via D707 --> 3 nights
    RockStock Ritz --> 1 night stop over to compensate for the bad road and have apple tart at Solitaire

    Spreetshoogte het camp met mooi vistas 1/2 pad op. Die eerste camp op die regte kant soos jy in-ry.
    Die kamp kyk uit oor na Rostock se kant toe. Afdak om onder te sit, maar jy moet daai kamp plek kry.

    Swakop --> 4 nights camp at Sophiadale and do Living Desert tour, moon landscape, maybe day trip to Walvisbay

    Also visit the giant Welwitchias, Drive the Khan 4WD TRail and, camp or have bruch/braai at the Chute and also drive the Swakop River

    Spitzkoppe --> 2 nights
    Erindi --> 2 nights
    Bagatelle --> 1 night
    and then retrace our steps back home.

    Drive home down the western side of the B 1, for a change of scenery. From Rehoboth, take the C 25 which becomes the C 15. There is a camp site at Uhlenhorst, Stampriet Hotel, Wildmoor, Gochas Hotel, Red Sands or something like that after Gochas on the C 15, then the Kalahari Sunset Game Farm and Terra Rouge a little way before Mata Mata and just after the D 503 turn-off.
    You would easily be able to get here from about Windhoek.
    The next morning take the scenic D 503 to the C 11, north of Aroab and then on to the Rietfonten Border post and back to Upington for the night.

    Plus minus 21 days round trip.

    My first, most pressing questions are:

    1. Which tour operator for the Living Desert tour in Swakop?

    2. On what days will the MET office be open over the period of 23 - 26 December to get a permit for the moon landscape and welwitchia's?

    8)

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    Sorry, but what I also meant to mention, is that you are supposed to be able to get Permits from Solitaire, and you can get then ahead of time.
    There was a previous post about Solitaire permits some time ago.
    Bloedkuppe and the rock arch are also worth a visit off the old Windhoek to Swakopmund gravel road, about 100 km from Swakop.
    Take one of the roads up, after the kuiseb Pass.
    To avoid the bad corrugated road from Solitaire to Kuiseb Pass, stay over on Spreetshoogte Camp, then move to the C 26, near the Hess Telescope and take the scenic and much better C 26 to Kuiseb Pass and then onto Bloedkuppe & The Rock Arch Cam Sites. Also very scenic, with one or two scenic camps at Mid Tinkas. Groot Tinkas not worth visiting.
    Camp 4 at Bloedkuppe has a nice ledge on which you can sit with sundowners, just above your camp site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    Johan, ja, Bloedkoppie lyk bietjie uit die pad. Sal mooi gaan kyk waar D2186 loop, nou by die werk en my T4A kaart is tuis.

    Does anybody have knowledge or experience with Namibia Valley of a Thousand hills campsite? Their website shows stunning vistas and views but the three stand themselves look very small and 'tatty' on the website. It is a bit out of the way, but not as much as Bloedkoppie.
    Hi Lekhubu, we were at Namib Valley of a Thousand hills campsite in 2014 - The space for camping is really really tiny and when we visited a storm had blown away the shade structures so we decided to stay in one of their beautiful Chalets. Highly recommended but the track to the camp's entry is really bad. see https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...t=#post2123483

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    In the first photo, we were camped at Blutkuppe site no.2, the no.4 that Haboob mentions in off to the right, our friends camped there. No.15, around the back of the hill also looked quite nice from a shade point of view, but not sure if it is worth the extra distance for a night stop.

    The lack of shade at Rostok Ritz is compounded by the rocky terrain. It was impossible to use normal tent pegs. (I did not have 10mm rebar pegs with me)

    We found the desert tour with Living Desert very good. Catamaran tour from Walvis Bay is also worthwhile if you have enough time.
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