"On the Road" fees - Page 2





Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 59
  1. #21
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Malawi
    Posts
    1,062
    Thanked: 1073

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Groenman View Post
    Just the same question as always. I got quotes on a few new cars. Worst was Ford - R4500 "on the road" charge.

    Can someone please explain what it's for? I understand licencing, but that can't be more than R1500.
    It's the universe's own way to tell you not to buy a Ford .

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to tashtego9 For This Useful Post:


  3. #22
    Join Date
    Aug 2017
    Location
    Durban or Centurion
    Posts
    1,319
    Thanked: 1235

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Also keep in mind there are no RWC done on new cars

  4. #23
    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Location
    Roodepoort
    Age
    67
    Posts
    317
    Thanked: 429

    Thumbs up Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by SAND View Post
    Also keep in mind there are no RWC done on new cars
    And on used vehicles, only the papers go to be stamped by the "Roadworthy Centre" When I bought my Kyron from Imperial six years ago, it had apparently been "road worthied" the morning before I picked it up. When I got home, only one head light was working, there were NO brake lights, and the handbrake didn't work. When I took it back and queried the so called road worthy, I basically got Eish, but in English. I still had to tell and show them how to adjust in disc drum brakes!
    I let them do the roadworthy, the rest I do my self, if they argue, I don't buy!
    09 Kyron, the Korean Snail.
    NO Meeow!
    Blanked EGR.
    Thermo Electric Cooling fan.

  5. The Following User Says Thank You to Markb For This Useful Post:


  6. #24
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Cape Town
    Age
    40
    Posts
    1,500
    Thanked: 95

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Markb View Post
    And on used vehicles, only the papers go to be stamped by the "Roadworthy Centre" When I bought my Kyron from Imperial six years ago, it had apparently been "road worthied" the morning before I picked it up. When I got home, only one head light was working, there were NO brake lights, and the handbrake didn't work. When I took it back and queried the so called road worthy, I basically got Eish, but in English. I still had to tell and show them how to adjust in disc drum brakes!
    I let them do the roadworthy, the rest I do my self, if they argue, I don't buy!
    Vehicle I bought in November (privately) - I wanted it to come with roadworthy - to make the change of ownership easier - it was done at a testing center in Parow.
    1.) Side indicators - no bulbs - one didn't have wiring
    2.) No hooter
    3.) Zero Back brakes
    4.) Suspension shot
    5.) No windscreen wipers
    6.) No front number plate
    7.) No rear plate lights (not sure if that's a requirement)
    8.) Not 100% sure the tyres are roadworthy - repairs in sidewalls


  7. #25
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Stellenbosch
    Age
    64
    Posts
    3,721
    Thanked: 427

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Bought my wife's mercedes, they wanted nearly R5000 on the road fees.
    I asked for a list of things that make up this amount.
    Licensing
    Full tank
    Body armour polish
    Wheel balancing/alignment
    Seats scottsguarded
    And...
    Fitting a tracker.
    I demanded that the tracker be disconnected and removed as I did not ask for it.
    Balance about R3500 in the end.
    Was still not happy but paid as the wifey wanted nothing else.
    Last edited by Damdan; 2019/01/23 at 11:29 AM.
    If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right. SJ

  8. #26
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Jhb North
    Age
    41
    Posts
    133
    Thanked: 89

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by xrapidx View Post
    Vehicle I bought in November (privately) - I wanted it to come with roadworthy - to make the change of ownership easier - it was done at a testing center in Parow.
    1.) Side indicators - no bulbs - one didn't have wiring
    2.) No hooter
    3.) Zero Back brakes
    4.) Suspension shot
    5.) No windscreen wipers
    6.) No front number plate
    7.) No rear plate lights (not sure if that's a requirement)
    8.) Not 100% sure the tyres are roadworthy - repairs in sidewalls
    Yikes.. sounds like you bought a gem!
    I assume you knew it wasn't in the greatest of conditions before you bought it?

    Dealerships don't even take the cars to the road-worthy premises... the just take the details and pay for the certificate.

  9. #27
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Randfontein
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,743
    Thanked: 1831

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    ON THE ROAD CHARGES
    NEW CARS
    WHAT IT COVERS
    An on the road fee is charged to cover the administration and services carried out for, and on behalf of, the customer in order to facilitate the transfer of ownership and effective delivery of a vehicle.
    ADMINISTRATION AND SERVICES
    Administration and services include:

    • Preparation of all necessary licensing and registration documentation including the transfer of the trade-in vehicle, where applicable.
    • Advancing all the necessary fees, preparing and submitting all the documentation necessary to the local licensing authority in order to effect transfer of ownership, registration and licensing of the vehicle.
    • Preparation and submission of all the documentation necessary for the settlement of existing agreements and the cost of interest, where applicable, when awaiting payment from the banks.
    • All movement of vehicles, including fuel for any specialist fitment of equipment as may be required by the customer.
    • The final preparation of the vehicle with all the necessary documentation including the fitment of registration plates and fuel for delivery.
    • To cover the costs of carpet mats and the pre-delivery inspection done by the workshop technicians.


    USED CARS
    WHAT IT COVERS
    An on the road fee is charged to cover the administration and services carried out for, and on behalf of, the customer in order to facilitate the transfer of ownership and effective delivery of a vehicle.
    ADMINISTRATION AND SERVICES
    Administration and services include:

    • Preparation of all necessary licensing and registration documentation including the transfer of the trade-in vehicle, where applicable.
    • Advancing all the necessary fees, preparing and submitting all the documentation necessary to the local licensing authority in order to effect transfer of ownership, registration and licensing of the vehicle.
    • Preparation and submission of all the documentation necessary for the settlement of existing agreements and the cost of interest, where applicable, when awaiting payment from the banks.
    • All movement of vehicles, including insurance cover and fuel for any specialist fitment of equipment as may be required by the customer.
    • The final preparation of the vehicle with all the necessary documentation including the fitment of registration plates and fuel for delivery.
    • Carrying out all the necessary checks of vehicle ownership to ensure that the vehicle is not stolen and that the vehicle is fully paid for.
    • Checking the vehicle history and servicing records in order to ensure that the kilometers shown are genuine.
    • To cover the costs of any additional charges for the requirement of the vehicle to be put through a roadworthy test and obtaining a certificate of road-worthiness, where applicable.



    The part in bold is pretty important to me
    Last edited by FWM; 2019/01/23 at 01:45 PM.
    Willie

    2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
    2020 Nissan NP300 2.5TDi S/C

  10. #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Location
    Cape Town
    Age
    29
    Posts
    2,913
    Thanked: 2053

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by BrusselSprout View Post
    Yikes.. sounds like you bought a gem!
    I assume you knew it wasn't in the greatest of conditions before you bought it?

    Dealerships don't even take the cars to the road-worthy premises... the just take the details and pay for the certificate.
    Do you have proof?
    Always think: Could this be sarcasm?

  11. #29
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Bellville
    Age
    51
    Posts
    12,928
    Thanked: 1776

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    The wheels of justice are turning fast at the National Credit Regulator - on Tuesday it declared "on-the-road", admin and handling fees, routinely added to VW Financial Services car finance deals, are illegal and ordered VW to refund those who'd been charged it.
    The announcement comes less than three weeks after the regulator did the same to BMW Finance, on the basis that such fees, referred to by some dealerships as a "dealership" fee or "service and delivery fee", are not among extra charges the National Credit Act allows credit providers to add to a credit agreement. Those "allowable" extras included an initiation fee, an extended warranty, delivery of the vehicle, a tank of fuel and licence and registration fees.
    The notice instructs Volkswagen Financial Services SA to refund consumers and submit an audit report to the regulator.
    "[We] will continue to conduct industry-wide investigations ... to root out illegal charges and fees consumers charged," the regulator said.
    Timeslive 25 October 2017
    Read carefully ....

    It is only illegal to add it to the CREDIT AGREEMENT.


    They still can ask you to pay it cash .... now that would be a sure way to get many to look elsewhere ....


    When I bought end of last year there was an on the road fee as well .... I did not bother with it, as my quotations up to that point were all "What must I pay in to drive out with..." They can do with the trade in and other fees as they please ... ultimately the only figure that really matters is how much I must put on the table to make the deal happen.

  12. #30
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Randfontein
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,743
    Thanked: 1831

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by BrusselSprout View Post

    Dealerships don't even take the cars to the road-worthy premises... the just take the details and pay for the certificate.
    This is not true.

    Ill take a picture of our roadworthy guy next time he comes around.
    Willie

    2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
    2020 Nissan NP300 2.5TDi S/C

  13. #31
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Fraserburg
    Age
    60
    Posts
    733
    Thanked: 692

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    ON THE ROAD CHARGES
    NEW CARS
    WHAT IT COVERS
    An on the road fee is charged to cover the administration and services carried out for, and on behalf of, the customer in order to facilitate the transfer of ownership and effective delivery of a vehicle.
    ADMINISTRATION AND SERVICES
    Administration and services include:

    • Preparation of all necessary licensing and registration documentation including the transfer of the trade-in vehicle, where applicable.
    • Advancing all the necessary fees, preparing and submitting all the documentation necessary to the local licensing authority in order to effect transfer of ownership, registration and licensing of the vehicle.
    • Preparation and submission of all the documentation necessary for the settlement of existing agreements and the cost of interest, where applicable, when awaiting payment from the banks.
    • All movement of vehicles, including fuel for any specialist fitment of equipment as may be required by the customer.
    • The final preparation of the vehicle with all the necessary documentation including the fitment of registration plates and fuel for delivery.
    • To cover the costs of carpet mats and the pre-delivery inspection done by the workshop technicians.


    USED CARS
    WHAT IT COVERS
    An on the road fee is charged to cover the administration and services carried out for, and on behalf of, the customer in order to facilitate the transfer of ownership and effective delivery of a vehicle.
    ADMINISTRATION AND SERVICES
    Administration and services include:

    • Preparation of all necessary licensing and registration documentation including the transfer of the trade-in vehicle, where applicable.
    • Advancing all the necessary fees, preparing and submitting all the documentation necessary to the local licensing authority in order to effect transfer of ownership, registration and licensing of the vehicle.
    • Preparation and submission of all the documentation necessary for the settlement of existing agreements and the cost of interest, where applicable, when awaiting payment from the banks.
    • All movement of vehicles, including insurance cover and fuel for any specialist fitment of equipment as may be required by the customer.
    • The final preparation of the vehicle with all the necessary documentation including the fitment of registration plates and fuel for delivery.
    • Carrying out all the necessary checks of vehicle ownership to ensure that the vehicle is not stolen and that the vehicle is fully paid for.
    • Checking the vehicle history and servicing records in order to ensure that the kilometers shown are genuine.
    • To cover the costs of any additional charges for the requirement of the vehicle to be put through a roadworthy test and obtaining a certificate of road-worthiness, where applicable.



    The part in bold is pretty important to me
    What was the source of this information?
    2001 Isuzu Frontier 4X4 DT280 LX 2.8 Turbo Diesel (Tourer)
    2011 JMC 4X4 Double Cab 2.8 Turbo Diesel (Work Bakkie)
    1973 Land Rover Series 2A 109" Ford V6 Kanniedood, Salisbury diff, galvanised chassis etc. (Hobby and Work vehicle)

  14. #32
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Roodepoort
    Posts
    352
    Thanked: 120

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    I just bought a car

    It "was taken for a roadworthy"?

    My issues are the front tires are almost on the tread depth indicators

    Dealer quoted min depth is 1mm tread depth indicators are 1.6mm thus still legal
    Wolverine : 93' Range Rover Classic 3.9L EFI

  15. #33
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Randfontein
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,743
    Thanked: 1831

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    What was the source of this information?
    Dealers do an HPI check which has all the vehicle details as well as pre-recorded finance as well as accident history if it was an insurance claim. If i remember correctly such a single transacion will cost around R400 to the dealer.
    Willie

    2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
    2020 Nissan NP300 2.5TDi S/C

  16. #34
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Potchefstroom
    Age
    62
    Posts
    371
    Thanked: 216

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    When I bought my 4x4 I asked for the PRICE OF THE VEHICLE, as in what must I pay to drive away.

    As I went to get the vehicle(with laptop to do etf), the price was higher (otr costs) than price given to me.
    I refused to pay the extra amount and did eft only for price given to me.
    The dealer went beserk and we had a little tussle, and I said that I did not ask for extras.
    They finally gave in.
    So I did RWC and registration myself (in different province as dealer).

    If it is not specified in original price, don't pay it!

  17. #35
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Randfontein
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,743
    Thanked: 1831

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Do math for a normal used car transaction.

    HPI check R400
    Roadworthy R350
    Fuel R400
    Workshop check R1500
    Carpet set R600
    Number plates and brackets R400
    Runner to do registration R150
    Admin R450

    Total R4250

    Yes some dealers charge up to R8000 which I feel is excessive.

    On the road fees are not allowed on the finance agreement, however the banks do allow service and delivery.
    Willie

    2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
    2020 Nissan NP300 2.5TDi S/C

  18. #36
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Fraserburg
    Age
    60
    Posts
    733
    Thanked: 692

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    Dealers do an HPI check which has all the vehicle details as well as pre-recorded finance as well as accident history if it was an insurance claim. If i remember correctly such a single transacion will cost around R400 to the dealer.
    So why isn't the cost of all these requirements included in the price as stipulated by the CPA? They're all known costs anyway and the drive away price should be advertised. You can't sell a dishwasher and then add on costs for wiping it down, checking the baskets are inside, the plug is connected and that the instruction book is supplied. Come on, this is a scam and ripoff.
    2001 Isuzu Frontier 4X4 DT280 LX 2.8 Turbo Diesel (Tourer)
    2011 JMC 4X4 Double Cab 2.8 Turbo Diesel (Work Bakkie)
    1973 Land Rover Series 2A 109" Ford V6 Kanniedood, Salisbury diff, galvanised chassis etc. (Hobby and Work vehicle)

  19. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Olyfboer For This Useful Post:


  20. #37
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Jhb North
    Age
    41
    Posts
    133
    Thanked: 89

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    This is not true.

    Ill take a picture of our roadworthy guy next time he comes around.
    rather take a video of him doing the test

    Quote Originally Posted by Oppies3800 View Post
    Do you have proof?
    yes -

    Copied from what i said in this thread:
    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...t=#post3893310

    "A colleague of mine (call him VP) bought a 1985ish VW Camper Kombi - private sale. His girlfriend's son-in-law owns a fairly well known used car dealership on Stormvoel Road in Pretoria. VP gave the papers to the dealer through the girlfriend who also works at the dealer, and two days later he had the new papers with the car changed into his name, with a new roadworth certificate, and new licence disc - and the camper didn't even leave VP's driveway (never went to the dealer or dekra)"

    It happened several times (cars and bikes). i've got cars with "roadworth certicicates" from dealers with multiple issues that would be show stoppers if you took it there yourself.
    Last edited by BrusselSprout; 2019/01/23 at 02:18 PM.

  21. The Following User Says Thank You to BrusselSprout For This Useful Post:


  22. #38
    Join Date
    Jun 2016
    Location
    Randfontein
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,743
    Thanked: 1831

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    So why isn't the cost of all these requirements included in the price as stipulated by the CPA? They're all known costs anyway and the drive away price should be advertised. You can't sell a dishwasher and then add on costs for wiping it down, checking the baskets are inside, the plug is connected and that the instruction book is supplied. Come on, this is a scam and ripoff.
    As with almost any transaction it is negotiable.
    The client can decide to do it himself or pay for it cash or ad it to the finance or let his trade in cover the costs, there are just too many options available.
    For example if the dealer needs to deliver the vehicle in another town. etc etc.
    Same goes when buying a house. The advertised price doesn't include all the transfer, attorneys and bond costs.
    Willie

    2000 Land Rover Discovery II TD5
    2020 Nissan NP300 2.5TDi S/C

  23. #39
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Garsfontein
    Age
    41
    Posts
    1,337
    Thanked: 556

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    So why isn't the cost of all these requirements included in the price as stipulated by the CPA? They're all known costs anyway and the drive away price should be advertised. You can't sell a dishwasher and then add on costs for wiping it down, checking the baskets are inside, the plug is connected and that the instruction book is supplied. Come on, this is a scam and ripoff.
    Hear hear!

  24. #40
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Roodepoort
    Posts
    352
    Thanked: 120

    Default Re: "On the Road" fees

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    As with almost any transaction it is negotiable.
    The client can decide to do it himself or pay for it cash or ad it to the finance or let his trade in cover the costs, there are just too many options available.
    For example if the dealer needs to deliver the vehicle in another town. etc etc.
    Same goes when buying a house. The advertised price doesn't include all the transfer, attorneys and bond costs.
    Re the house

    You are made aware of it (the transfer cost ect)
    Its usually approx set price

    You have to pay it upfront
    Wolverine : 93' Range Rover Classic 3.9L EFI

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •