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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobus80 View Post
    Hate to spoil the red car supporter's flight of fancy but :

    1 Hamilton Mercedes 1m17.977s
    2 Leclerc Ferrari 1m18.475s
    3 Grosjean Haas 1m18.893s
    4 Ricciardo Renault 1m18.954s
    5 Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo 1m19.258s
    6 Albon Toro Rosso 1m19.763s
    7 Stroll Racing Point 1m20.026s
    8 Norris McLaren 1m20.260s
    9 Gasly Red Bull 1m20.481s
    10 Kubica Williams 1m22.681s


    Summary
    • Hamilton fastest with Mercedes' best time of testing so far
    • Norris brings out early red flag in bizarre incident
    • Kubica making first appearance in new Williams
    Ric had already bettered Ham's time, but yes, anybody believing MB and Ham won't be at the sharp end has a big surprise coming.

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    And then Ricciardo in the Renault even faster than MB
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaconell View Post
    I have for the past few days now gobbled up everything on the interwebbs (interviews, opinions, data etc) in sheer anticipation of the coming season. It is not the laptimes or reliability of the Ferrari's (and Alfa & Haas), but rather the underlying sentiment - which is that Ferrari has produced something that may just be very special - that gives me hope for a great season. No matter what says who - MB and Lewis will be at the sharp end and competing. And going against most opinions (even guys way more cleverderher than me) Leclerc will not usurp Seb THIS year. I know I may still eat a few caps, but I will be most pleased if all this early euphoria surrounding Ferrari can result in a battle royale with MB (hopefully Max in there also) that will be so severe and hotblooded that we have fistfights between drivers (TIC), crying Pitgirls (TIC), Ross Brawn having his hands full with team managers, mechanics threatning other teams with full-out hand combat etc, etc. In short and seriously, please let us have awesome racing. And no matter how much I love my RED CARS, I do not want them to wrap the season by Spa, but let it go down to the wire.

    I suspect this thread to be very busy this year - and that is good.

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    Jaco, I'll be honest, this year, I don't give a damn if Ferrari wraps up the season by June. You can save the big fight for next year - it sounds awesome. But, I've waited too long for a great red car so let them have the championship by Spa!!
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    Amen brother
    I see you guys counting the chicks well before they hatch

    I am surprised what some people read into a few days of testing, well let's see how it pans out .

    Looking back for a few seasons, MB has never disclosed their aces in the early days, even struggled a bit so to catch up in the process and I wouldn't be surprised if they come out strong.

    The Honda engine, I hope, has now overcome the teething problems and should be counted in as well, but my biggest glory would be if Kimi would put that Alfa onto the pedestal a few times, just to show the motivation of pleasure in driving away from BS policies.

    So far it looks like an interesting constellation, possibly the best in years.
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    The saddest part of the testing so far is just how far Williams seem to have fallen from the heights of the 80s and 90s. They seem to be an extremely good bet to end up at the bottom of all the tables this year. With the support that Haas and Alfa is getting from Ferrari, and Toro Rosso from RB, the days of the truly independent, privateer teams looks like it's numbered.

    For the guys looking at the latest times with Hamilton and Ricciardo at the top - Ferrari hasn't used the quick tyres in anger yet.. And come on, we've all gone out of way to state that it's too early to do anything other than hope..

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    Just to add, based on the top speeds, it doesn't look like any of the engines really has a huge advantage over the others. So Honda and Renault look like they've improved over the off season. It could be a very interesting season this.

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    [QUOTE=Kalahari Safari;4093320]I see you guys counting the chicks well before they hatch QUOTE]

    Hope springs eternal Sir.

    Yes, Lewis is waiting for us.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanRoux View Post
    The saddest part of the testing so far is just how far Williams seem to have fallen from the heights of the 80s and 90s. They seem to be an extremely good bet to end up at the bottom of all the tables this year. With the support that Haas and Alfa is getting from Ferrari, and Toro Rosso from RB, the days of the truly independent, privateer teams looks like it's numbered.

    For the guys looking at the latest times with Hamilton and Ricciardo at the top - Ferrari hasn't used the quick tyres in anger yet.. And come on, we've all gone out of way to state that it's too early to do anything other than hope..
    LH - 1.17.977 - Tyre:C4
    ClC - 1.18.065 - Tyre:C3



    LH just switched to the C5 - this will be interesting to see (regardless of fuel load)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaconell View Post
    Yes, Lewis is waiting for us.....
    Heck, that sounds ominous
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    Quote Originally Posted by N0ddy View Post
    LH - 1.17.977 - Tyre:C4
    ClC - 1.18.065 - Tyre:C3



    LH just switched to the C5 - this will be interesting to see (regardless of fuel load)
    Toro Rosso just went quickest, must be good signs for Red Bull..

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    Tyre: C5

    At play possibly: fuel loads, engine modes, etc etc..

    But still enjoyable to see the times tumble that way!!
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    Seems like there is exciting season brewing for us lot. Canít wait for it to kick off!
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    Just watched a 2 hour doccumentary on DSTV 109, concerning Senna. Absolutely gripping stuff. I wish I had known about it earlier and would have posted a heads-up here. Be aware, it may also cause a small gogga to fly into your eye and cause tears.

    (It also reminded me why I have always regarded Sir Jackie Stewart a complete #&@?!%le.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaconell View Post
    Just watched a 2 hour doccumentary on DSTV 109, concerning Senna. Absolutely gripping stuff. I wish I had known about it earlier and would have posted a heads-up here. Be aware, it may also cause a small gogga to fly into your eye and cause tears.

    (It also reminded me why I have always regarded Sir Jackie Stewart a complete #&@?!%le.)
    Was on Amazon Prime in August last year.... DSTV is pathetic.

    Brilliant documentary though, I loved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by willben View Post
    Here are some stats that you may feel justify your opinion.

    MS - Rookie Year 1991
    First Race with Jordan.
    Completed the Season with Benetton. Raced with Benetton until 1995
    Benetton Constructors positions: 1988 - 3rd, 1989 - 4th, 1990 - 3rd, 1991 - 4th, 1992 - 3rd, 1993 - 3rd, 1994 - 2nd, 1995 - 1st.
    Points Scored per Year (Position at end of year)
    1991 - 4 (14th)
    1992 - 53 (3rd)
    1993 - 52 (4th)
    1994 - 92 (1st)
    1995 - 102 (1st)

    Left Benetton for Ferrari in 1996.
    Ferrari Constructurs position: 1993 - 4th, 1994 - 3rd, 1995 - 3rd, 1996 - 2nd, 1997 - 2nd, 1998 - 2nd, 1999 - 1st, 2000 to 2004 - 1st, 2005 - 3rd, 2006 - 4th.
    Points Scored per Year (Position at end of year)
    1996 - 59 (3rd)
    1997 - 78 (DSQ) - tried to take Villeneuve out to win the championship and FIA disqualified him.
    1998 - 86 (2nd)
    1999 - 44 (5th)
    2000 - 108 (1st)
    2001 - 123 (1st)
    2002 - 144 (1st)
    2003 - 93 (1st)
    2004 - 148 (1st)
    2005 - 62 (3rd)
    2006 - 121 (2nd)
    End of Career 2006.

    Brief 3 year appearance at Mercedes from 2010 to 2012 but was unable to get above 8th in the drivers championship.

    In summary it took MS 3 years to get a world championship excluding the first year because he only raced 6 races, it took 4 years for Benetton to win the constructors. When he joined Ferrari it took them 4 years to do both.


    LH - Rookie Year 2007

    Raced with McLaren until 2012.
    McLaren Constructors positions: 2004 - 5th, 2005 - 2nd, 2006 - 3rd, 2007 - DSQ, 2008 - 2nd, 2009 -3rd , 2010 - 2nd, 2011 - 2nd, 2012 - 3rd.
    Points Scored per Year (Position at end of year)
    2007 - 109 (2nd)
    2008 - 98 (1st)
    2009 - 49 (5th)
    2010 - 240 (4th)
    2011 - 227 (5th)
    2012 - 190 (4th)

    Why did he leave McLaren? Maybe he saw the writing on the wall, McLaren's highest place in the constructors championship since 2012 was 5th, dropping to 9th in 2017.

    Left McLaren for Mercedes in 2013.
    Mercedes Constructors positions: 2010 - 4th, 2011 - 4th, 2012 - 5th, 2013 - 2nd, 2014 - 1st, 2015 - 1st, 2016 - 1st, 2017 - 1st, 2018 - 1st.
    Points Scored per Year (Position at end of year)
    2013 - 189 (4th)
    2014 - 384 (1st)
    2015 - 381 (1st)
    2016 - 380 (2nd)
    2017 - 363 (1st)
    2018 - 408 (1st)

    It could be argued that LH brought the Mercedes team up, he replaced MS at Mercedes and the team's performance in the constructors championship changed dramatically. Was MS bringing Mercedes down? I'm not sure, he was however outperformed by Nico Rosberg. What if LH had left Mclaren in 2010 instead of 2013 for Mercedes, is it possible that Mercedes would have one each and every championship since 2010 when they rejoined F1 as a racing team?

    We'll never know. In my opinion you can't compare the 2 drivers (LH and MS) they were too far apart. Each decade in this sport has brought it's own set of challenges that neither driver had to face together. MS never had a competitive no 2 driver for many years in his career. I know team orders weren't allowed during his reign, but who's to say that Barrichello didn't have it in his contract that he was the number 2 driver and that number 2 meant exactly that.
    Lewis would have not made an impact if he joined Mercedes earlier. Only reason why Mercedes was so dominant from 2014, is due to the Hybrid package. They had the upper hand in technology available and everyone else was nowhere. Red Bull battled with the new technology and development. This year and probably next year, you will find the teams will be closer than before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    If you look at the 2018 F1 season, you will see that "engine" failures did not happen that often ("engine" being sub-assembly).
    Most failures were (electrical) power system, with a good dose of the following:
    • hydraulics
    • transmission
    • cooling (what's new?)
    • other electric / electronic glitches


    To have a full day's testing on a completely new car without any failures is very remarkable.
    And power units.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veneficus View Post
    I do not agree on that one

    15 years ago where they had access to allot more testing and engines were allowed to be replaced constantly fine
    Push it to its absolute limits in testing so you know the max limits

    Current F1 is completely different story
    They have 3 engines that have to last the whole season
    So honestly if their engine blew up in testing 1 month before the start of the season and only having done 160 laps (which is less than 2 race weekends laps for testing, qualifying and race)

    Then they would be very deep in excrement this year
    You can use a new engine every race if you wish. The first 3 wonít give you a track penalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanRoux View Post
    Jaco, I'll be honest, this year, I don't give a damn if Ferrari wraps up the season by June. You can save the big fight for next year - it sounds awesome. But, I've waited too long for a great red car so let them have the championship by Spa!!
    What is happening next year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaconell View Post
    I got so carried away with dreams of Monza I completely forgot the comment I intended posting here.

    I bought Kimi's book Saturday afternoon and was done reading by Sunday evening. It is a storming story of a life lived with few limits for a long time, but also how growing maturity saved the day (man). I will not spoil anything but can say that Kimi should have had more than one WC.

    For any F1 or Kimi fan - your bookshelf is incomplete without this one.
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    Mercedes admits stability problems in corners:
    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...o-fix-handling
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    Mercedes has identified potential problem with their front wing. It is substantially different to Ferrari. Merc is even considering copying Ferrari's front but it would mean major changes to the car = 3 to 4 months. Red Bull has similar front to Merc but according to them their remainder of the car is different and they can copy Ferrari quickly. They also say not easy to Merc.

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