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    Default Re: Sprite Tourer SW vs Explorer vs What Else?

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    Having just bought the latest copy of Caravan and Camping there is an article written by an owner of a Tourer whose insides were trashed by the poor roads in Namibia. Go read for yourselves.

    So maybe they improved the build since then but be warned.

    We did Nam with our Xplorer recently and the roads around Sesriem were really bad.

    Our total dirt road distance was 1000 km and although a few parts on the front outside took a beating the only failure we had inside was the hella plug on the fridge.

    Granted I did put extra hinges on the 3 large cupboard doors inside based on others suggestions.

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    I think the reality is that anything with screws and movable parts will take a beating on rough roads over a period of time. Gravel here and there is probably fine, but I wouldn't get a Tourer if you intend frequenting gravel roads.
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I wont be attempting Nam or any other up in Africa type of trip with a Tourer. Thats why we keeping the trailer. Bit of gravel every now and again and having a comfortable solid roof over our heads and a silent box to sleep in when we camping in the busy kids friendly sites is mostly what we want.

    Outside kitchen, place to hide in the rain, maybe a movie for the kids at night when it raining or cold and being able to drive through Transkei and camp somewhere for 7 days.

    Only issue with the Explorer is really when I compare what we want vs what the Explorer offers for the price against the Tourer it seems like the Tourer is a better bet.

    Maybe in a couple of years when both kids are over 8 or 9 and they sleep outside in their own tents we will considder just getting a Explorer and selling the trailer.

    SWAMBO and I do like to travel frequently on our own up accross the borders without the kids. And for that the trailer works extremely well.

    We will go amd have a look over this weekend again at some Tourers and take it from there. I kind of like that Van.
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    Most of these vans have wooden structures and chip board cupboards.
    They are all susceptible to wood rot and over time the cupboards DO fall apart.
    Look at the Sherpa Rambler built out of fiber glass and can be customized to your specifications...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillysCJ View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    I wont be attempting Nam or any other up in Africa type of trip with a Tourer. Thats why we keeping the trailer. Bit of gravel every now and again and having a comfortable solid roof over our heads and a silent box to sleep in when we camping in the busy kids friendly sites is mostly what we want.

    Outside kitchen, place to hide in the rain, maybe a movie for the kids at night when it raining or cold and being able to drive through Transkei and camp somewhere for 7 days.

    Only issue with the Explorer is really when I compare what we want vs what the Explorer offers for the price against the Tourer it seems like the Tourer is a better bet.

    Maybe in a couple of years when both kids are over 8 or 9 and they sleep outside in their own tents we will considder just getting a Explorer and selling the trailer.

    SWAMBO and I do like to travel frequently on our own up accross the borders without the kids. And for that the trailer works extremely well.

    We will go amd have a look over this weekend again at some Tourers and take it from there. I kind of like that Van.
    Best of both worlds then. If you can why not?
    We just got gatvol of setting up and breaking down the trailer every 2 to 3 days on a long haul.
    It was our main reason for opting for a Xplorer.
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    I have owned a light 4x4 trailer with a roof top tent for some time, and have just bought a 2010 Scout Nomad caravan

    I was at first thinking of selling the trailer, but on reflection decided to keep it, as both the caravan and trailer have there advantages depending on the type of trip you are doing.

    The Scout Nomad is a lovely little caravan but think it maybe a bit small for the 4 of you, if the weather is bad. It tows like a dream and only increased my fuel consumption by about 40%.

    As to how it will cope on bad road, well time will tell.

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    Have you had a look at the BacTrax models?

    https://www.kennis.co.za/14.bactrax-crossover.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie100 View Post
    Have you had a look at the BacTrax models?

    https://www.kennis.co.za/14.bactrax-crossover.htm
    Not much different from a Tourer. Based on Sprite models and modified beefed up to fill a gap between the Tourers
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    I think the BacTrax is a custom unit done by Kennis caravans, so not something that came out of the factory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu Fan View Post
    Not much different from a Tourer. Based on Sprite models and modified beefed up to fill a gap between the Tourers
    Hopefully modified enough to handle gravel roads a bit better than the Tourer models?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie100 View Post
    Hopefully modified enough to handle gravel roads a bit better than the Tourer models?
    Cant say Charlie. But my 5c:

    I had a look at them at last years Beeld Outdoor show when we were window shopping. First impressions were that the mods looked just like the Tourer externally and internally nothing stood out at "modified" or "strengthened".

    The most shocking feature to me was a normal fridge mounted towards the rear of the van. That simply tells me dont even consider gravel roads. Imagine the contents of that fridge once a corrugated road has been travelled?

    Having said that my earlier reference to the latest Caravan and Outdoor magazine where a reader wrote in about his experiences sums it up clearly to me. The interior was pretty trashed over those Nam dirt roads.

    A gravel road can be excellent to extremely poor. What we experienced in Nam was exactly that. They varied from excellent to shocking. The problem is how does one plan for that when you go on a tour?

    The OP was going to do have the best of both worlds. A Off Road Trailer for the rough stuff and a Tourer for other.

    It's his choice. If I chose to do both I would just go with a conventional caravan which would be cheaper.

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    Let's be honest - a "gravel roader" is a normal caravan with a slightly better suspension (or rather has an actual suspension) and a bit more mean looking.
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    Had a look at the Gecko caravan at the Cape Holiday show, for two people travelling this is the answer..

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    The Xplorer is really tough. Our explore has now done about 1000km off tarmac, Botswana being one of the big trips where my folks, myself and SWAMBO and the 5 year old kipper all lived for about a week in bush luxury. My folks followed me down a sand track in Botswana and they were sure that the inside would be a mess. The video was impressive. Nothing had moved and appart from a bottle breaking in the cupboard there was no sign of the extreme ride.

    Not sure how they stack up to the Tourer though. But Tourer is 1140 TARE and the Xplorer is 1402. They are roughly the same size and I attribute the difference to heavier build.

    So as a go anywhere van you cannot go wrong with the Xplorer. BUT the tourer would be good for 80% of the camping we do. In fact I do feel that some light camping the Xplorer is overkill... but all is forgiven when you start planning the next trip and realise that the caravan is not the limiting factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBotha View Post
    Had a look at the Gecko caravan at the Cape Holiday show, for two people travelling this is the answer..
    Was considering one of them but no second hand units anywhere and I wanted windows. Big windows to lie in bed and take in nature in the early morning. Those two little porthole size peepholes weren't for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Let's be honest - a "gravel roader" is a normal caravan with a slightly better suspension (or rather has an actual suspension) and a bit more mean looking.
    That axle is the same Rubax ALKO axle as is used on all Jurgens and Sprite caravans?
    No different
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    Default Re: Sprite Tourer SW vs Explorer vs What Else?

    I'm no expert whatsoever, but i would ask myself:
    Would i be willing to chance it on a trip with a caravan that wasn't REALLY built for what may lie ahead (Conditions and weather changes things in an instant) on my trip risking my breakaway?
    Personally i would rather look for the most comfortable caravan that was purpose built for rough terrain for the peace of mind. An explorer used for the type of terrain you are aiming for should also last a lifetime.

    Just my 2cents.

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    Thanks all for the input.

    Some guys really should learn to read post 1 and find out what the actual question was.

    We will be looking at some gravel vans this weekend. Going to camp at Dube in December and would really like a box for that trip instead of the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillysCJ View Post
    Thanks all for the input.

    Some guys really should learn to read post 1 and find out what the actual question was.

    We will be looking at some gravel vans this weekend. Going to camp at Dube in December and would really like a box for that trip instead of the trailer.
    Not being picky here but I have always had the OP under consideration in all my replies.

    At the end of the day it is your choice.

    But the last post sums it up. There gravel roads and there are gravel (shake baby shake!) roads. And you only know when you get there
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