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    Default Looking at purchasing a new hardbody 4x4 2.5TDI dc

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    I've been looking at second hand 4x4 options and have come to the conclusion that with the cost of these things and how many miles they have on them I should rather night the bullet and look for new. However the only option available that I can afford is the hardbody TDI.

    I'm looking for any advice on this, anyone with much experience. I've only ever driven the donkey 2.4 petrol. Is the diesel any better? I'm hoping there are better seats in this version to the vinyl ones I've been in. I'm quite a large fellow so I'm really holding thumbs that it's going to be comfortable when I test it on Saturday.

    I would imagine that engine should be a prime candidate for a chip considering the e Navara can push out 140kw....

    In that price range the only other option is a ranger, beautiful but a 4x2.

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    Not the same exact engine as the Navara as far as I recall. Yes, same engine code (YD25) but the injection system differs as well as the turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Not the same exact engine as the Navara as far as I recall. Yes, same engine code (YD25) but the injection system differs as well as the turbo.
    no balancer shaft either, if i recall Reenen's comment correctly?

    @HomeBrewer - i test drove one Tuesday, 400kms on clock (so fairly new LOL)

    given what i drove before - this one impressed me with the performance.
    Comfort i have no issues with, i was happy with the 2003 HB, and this one is not different (although, new).
    suspension is solid for my use-case.

    So, IMHO, for that price, you won't get something new of this quality!

    and they rate the 2.5 higher than the 3.0TD on both performance and reliability, straight out the box (std)
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    Default Re: Looking at purchasing a new hardbody 4x4 2.5TDI dc

    I have a 2.5 diesel in the farm with 300 000km on it and with regards to power and reliability it is good.

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    If you appreciate that it is an old school bakkie, you will not be disappointed.
    Lost of them running around here and being used as self drive vehicles. yet to see one on a loadbed (as opposed to another popular brand).

    The only limiting factor for you might be size. It is fairly cramped (being old school design) and you might struggle to find a comfortable seating position.

    Other than that, at the prices they go for, it should be a no Brianer.
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    Lets see what happens on Saturday. The value is absolutely there.

    I will be going from a Suzuki grand vitara which I absolutely love but at the end of the day I'm looking for good value and reliability.

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    Default Re: Looking at purchasing a new hardbody 4x4 2.5TDI dc

    I am also lurking and seriously considering one, so please come and share your experience afterwards.
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    Also very interested.

    Definitely from the mid 2000's in terms of size, interior etc but that motor and chassis / body is tough and it seems well priced.

    There's also a ton of accessories that should hopefully be a bit cheaper as it may be old stock.

    The TJM / ARB bullbar for those things along with some decent tyres makes them look mean.
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    Default Re: Looking at purchasing a new hardbody 4x4 2.5TDI dc

    The only other vehicle that comes close to the Hardbody on price is the Mahindra Pick-up. New 4x4 for around R340k.

    I think the Nissan is the better option. Honest old school DC

    FIL business will be replacing a few of their Ranger Double cabs (Base models) with the Hardbody. As FIL mentioned it is purely a business decision, but they cannot ignore the value offering from Nissan.


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    Default Re: Looking at purchasing a new hardbody 4x4 2.5TDI dc

    I see it doesn't come with rear diff lock, are there any options available that will not influence the warranty?
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    Ya only limited slip diff at the back. Should be fine for most applications.

    Suppose ARB airlock system but would definitely void any warranty if you have issues with your diff

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    My only critisism of that Hardbody double cab is that the rear seat is designed for kids under the age of 11. If you want to use the rear seat for your dog only it is a perfect choice for the price. One must remember that the Hardbody double cab must be the oldest design still being in production.
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    I bought one a few weeks back and so far I'm impressed. Adequate power easily cruises at 130kph, fuel consumption between 9.5km/l and 11.

    i couldn't find a better deal for just over 300k new.

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    We have one at work. If you are anything over 1.72m tall, and/or weigh in above the 100kg mark, don't even think about it.

    I would buy a whole fleet of them for site bakkies. They are decent on fuel, too slow to do something stupid with, and really well built, but seriously uncomfortsble, and I personally couldn't live with one for my own personal use.

    The seating position is crazy, you sit way too low to the floor, and the steering wheel has zero adjustment. No way an adult could ever fit in the back seat for longer than 10 minutes.

    Be very sure it will work for your application

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    We have one at work. If you are anything over 1.72m tall, and/or weigh in above the 100kg mark, don't even think about it.I would buy a whole fleet of them for site bakkies. They are decent on fuel, too slow to do something stupid with, and really well built, but seriously uncomfortsble, and I personally couldn't live with one for my own personal use.

    The seating position is crazy, you sit way too low to the floor, and the steering wheel has zero adjustment. No way an adult could ever fit in the back seat for longer than 10 minutes.

    Be very sure it will work for your application

    Why, What is wrong.. I am 1.8m tall and weigh approx. 110kg and have not had a problem with the internal space, and we had our Hardbody for nearly 8 years..

    I would say if you are taller than 1.95m and are big structured then you might feel a bit uncomfortable.

    The NP300/Hardbody is excellent value for money and a very good design. Yes, the back seat is a bit small for an adult, but even I can still fit in at the back.

    oh, and the NP300 with the 2.5TDi engines aren't slow, have you tried to keep up with these okes with the delivery boxes on....

    The diff ratios are also different from the 3.0TD. The 2.5TDi diff ratios according to the manual is 3.7, where the 3.0 (ZD30) had diff ratios of 4.375..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPiet View Post
    We have one at work. If you are anything over 1.72m tall, and/or weigh in above the 100kg mark, don't even think about it.
    Can't agree with that. I'm both of the above and I didn't have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Can't agree with that. I'm both of the above and I didn't have a problem.
    +1 also don't have any issues and im well over that.
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    I am all for the hardbody and being 1.9 myself I never felt crammed for space. That said, I would rather today buy the foton tunland than the hardbody.

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    Just tested it now.

    Quite impressed. In town has enough power and the clutch,steering is light.

    a little pap at 120, and cruised at about 3000rpm at that speed but good enough. certainly worth more than 100k saving on a equivalent ford 4x4. Yes its small at the back but I don't have 11 year old kids.

    I'm 1.9m and 100++++, I found it comfortable but a little cramped around the steering wheel. If only it had a little more adjustment but hey. It's still good value. It's a bakkie

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuanB View Post
    . That said, I would rather today buy the foton tunland than the hardbody.
    The Nissan can be sold in 5 years for almost more than what you paid for it.

    The Foton? Not so much........
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