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    20"

    You can probably fit slightly over sized Mud's like they currently do on the D5.
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    [QUOTE=shady;4315594]So when speccing the P400, what wheels and rims to go for?The P400 can't fit anything less than 19" because of the size of the brakes in order to stop that amount of horses. So it's either 19's or 20's and we all know the smaller the rim, the better it is offroad, and the more comfortable the ride. But here's the thing, if you want to change to a different tyre at some stage, you simply can't find ANY tyres in that size (255-65-r19). At least in 20's you have the option of BFg's or even Coopers. So what to do? The p400 Dx has a max spec of 32 inch as I understand it. Your best option could be the Duratec 255/,55/20 but you would need to verify this as it converts to a 31,9 inch overall dia. the 255 / ,60 / 19 converts to 31 inch whereas the 255/ ,65 / 19 converts to 32,1 inch. Obviously the more rubber between the rim and the tyre gives you a better ride off road. You need to check with D5 owners what solutions they are coming up with on this subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady View Post
    So when speccing the P400, what wheels and rims to go for?

    The P400 can't fit anything less than 19" because of the size of the brakes in order to stop that amount of horses. So it's either 19's or 20's and we all know the smaller the rim, the better it is offroad, and the more comfortable the ride. But here's the thing, if you want to change to a different tyre at some stage, you simply can't find ANY tyres in that size (255-65-r19). At least in 20's you have the option of BFg's or even Coopers. So what to do?

    (Specifically if you want all those horses, and the ability to have the most awesome game reserve vehicle in the history of ever - because if the ability to edge forward completely silently while at a game sighting using the 48v electrical system only)
    Always the 20ís

    I had amazing BFG KO2ís on my D5. Over sized and did not rub.

    Had 265/60/r20 and they were MASSIVE.

    No worries about sidewall cuts etc...

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    Wow, those do look good on the Disco!

    I've had a look at the OE tyres that will come standard with the vehicle. It's the Goodyear Wrangler Adventure's. And from what my local tyre shop guy says, and from what I've read, it's a fantastic tyre.
    In fact, it won the DriveOut shootout (see attacment)


    So now I'm thinking the 19"s with the dedicated Adventures, is the way to go.

    It's just as massive.
    It's MUCH better on road.
    It's MUCH better in the wet.
    (these last two points, therefore make it safer)
    It's MUCH quieter.
    I reckon the fuel consumption would be better.
    It's ALMOST as good as the best offroad, (but the 19 has the taller sidewall to make up what it lacks offroad against the 20" BFg's).
    I think it would probably be better on sand (in the same way that an A/T is superior to a M/T on sand)
    They are replaceble at a fraction of the cost of a BFG or Cooper.

    It perhaps just doesn't look quite as good IMHO.

    So if going for the 19's one just has to hope that the Goodyear Adventures are as good as they say, because there's no swapping to any other manufacturer without buying new rims...
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    Hi ShadyI do not find any 19 rim size tyres for Good year on their site other than 255 / ,55 / 19.What sizes were you looking at? The 265 / ,60, / 20 (32,5 inch Dia) gives you 159 mm of rubber between rim and road whereas the 255 / ,55 / 19 (30 inch Dia) only gives you +/- 140 mm. You also get about 8% more travel per revolution but probably will use a slight increase in power to turn the heavier tyre.A difficult decision but we need to learn from experiences of the D4 and D5 owners. They already have the rubber on the ground!
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    No the 19" comes in 255-65.
    That gives a 166mm tyre wall height.

    I think it's quite a new size of tyre.
    I think the tyre shop guy quoted 3 thousand and something Rand each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orxy View Post
    Wow, that's seriously impressive.
    At 00:11, it looks like it has a front difflock... just how do they get the electrics to do that? That front left doesn't spin up at all! So how does it apply the brakes to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady View Post
    Wow, that's seriously impressive.
    At 00:11, it looks like it has a front difflock... just how do they get the electrics to do that? That front left doesn't spin up at all! So how does it apply the brakes to it?
    I think the technical term is witchcraft .

    If not then maybe load sensors on the drivetrain or an algorithm from the terrain response sensing very fine movement differences from front/back or left/right wheels.
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    I think you're 100% correct Pieter.

    Maybe like a "weight-on-wheels" squat switch or similar. So it senses the wheel is in the air and brakes it, making it then the most resistive wheel.

    Now if only Land Rover had thought about this a bit earlier:

    https://youtu.be/MnwWrUIsyXU
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    Quote Originally Posted by shady View Post
    I think you're 100% correct Pieter.

    Maybe like a "weight-on-wheels" squat switch or similar. So it senses the wheel is in the air and brakes it, making it then the most resistive wheel.

    Now if only Land Rover had thought about this a bit earlier:

    https://youtu.be/MnwWrUIsyXU
    If only they had, I could have looked less of a chop.
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    Well luckily WE all know the older Defenders don't like crossaxles...

    And you certainly didn't look like a chop when you were the only one to get over here :

    https://youtu.be/Yr4AGJTUByI

    (albeit with a character scar or two)


    But anyways, I digress, so back to the New Defender.... if anyone is friendly with the whose-who, at Land Rover, there is a launch of then new machine at The Experience in Lonehill in about 3 weeks time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shady View Post
    Well luckily WE all know the older Defenders don't like crossaxles...

    And you certainly didn't look like a chop when you were the only one to get over here :

    https://youtu.be/Yr4AGJTUByI

    (albeit with a character scar or two)


    But anyways, I digress, so back to the New Defender.... if anyone is friendly with the whose-who, at Land Rover, there is a launch of then new machine at The Experience in Lonehill in about 3 weeks time....
    Me and my wife were invited, will be going on the 5th of March Cant wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudeG View Post
    Me and my wife were invited, will be going on the 5th of March Cant wait!
    How much for the invite
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    The 90 build is available on the Canadian LR site: https://buildyour.landrover.com/lr2/...663_k205/4q875
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    Take a look at Richard Agnew (@theragers): https://twitter.com/theragers

    He just got a Defender and is already taking it on a trip, posting photos of fill-up, packing space, etc.

    He does work for LR though, so don't expect him to say anything overtly bad.
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