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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    Had the new defender had a Toyota badge on it I believe there would be a totally different reaction to it.
    At least we'd understand that price tag.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    Is that a HiLift jack on the RR?Wonder where are the jacking points....anybody seen it??
    I wish it's off-road height were the standard height..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    Is that a HiLift jack on the RR?Wonder where are the jacking points....anybody seen it??

    no itís not. Here is another view of the RR
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    After all this excitement and anticipation you guys have to hope JLR survive as a company after this depression that is in the making.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    no itís not. Here is another view of the RR
    The RR's were not equiped the same!Post 2737/8 a HiLift jack is clearly visible.In the videos you can also see that the RR were not configured the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    I wish it's off-road height were the standard height..
    Should be able to configure it like that once the GAP program is available
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike N View Post
    After all this excitement and anticipation you guys have to hope JLR survive as a company after this depression that is in the making.
    Very real concerne.....for us all
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    The RR's were not equiped the same!Post 2737/8 a HiLift jack is clearly visible.In the videos you can also see that the RR were not configured the same.
    I didnít know that and tried to find one but couldnt. Will take a look at the others. But having looked at the defender closely I doubt you could use a hilift jack on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike N View Post
    After all this excitement and anticipation you guys have to hope JLR survive as a company after this depression that is in the making.
    As we have to do for many companies and people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    The RR's were not equiped the same!Post 2737/8 a HiLift jack is clearly visible.In the videos you can also see that the RR were not configured the same.
    you right I watched it again on the tv and you can see it.

    maybe they have those wheel clamp things for the hilift. Or itís just to look cool like many who carry them 😂
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    may you all have a blessed evening.

    https://youtu.be/CNkb3hAF9R4

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    Quote Originally Posted by afrifaan View Post
    may you all have a blessed evening.

    https://youtu.be/CNkb3hAF9R4

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    thats one of the best reviews I think. Enjoyed this guys honesty in the way he didnít claim to be an expert off roader
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    Should be able to configure it like that once the GAP program is available
    Ah yes. IIDtool..

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    I would love some technical info like:
    What did LR do to make it more reliable, like the IP67 wire rating?
    What did LR do to make it more 'unbreakable' like differences in suspension from for instance the Disco 5?

    For me it is definitely at the top of my want/replace list for my Disco and as every review has said/hinted , the only unknown is reliability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oradba69 View Post
    What did LR do to make it more 'unbreakable' like differences in suspension from for instance the Disco 5?
    Yes this is a very interesting question. How tougher are it's internals than those of D5 for example? Or is it just a D5 on a bit of stilts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oradba69 View Post
    I would love some technical info like:
    What did LR do to make it more reliable, like the IP67 wire rating?
    What did LR do to make it more 'unbreakable' like differences in suspension from for instance the Disco 5?

    For me it is definitely at the top of my want/replace list for my Disco and as every review has said/hinted , the only unknown is reliability.
    I think the D4 is reliable.Maintenance cost is the issue.Lower control arm bushes and the EAS pump are high cost items.The pump is outsourced and generic.Is there a better pump on the market?The bushes is more difficult.Stiffer bushes may effect the quality of the ride.Ask people that fitted poly bushes!!The bushes on my MB200K never lasted longer than 60k kms.Hopefully there is newer tech that can make them last longer.

    The electronic park brake can be an issue,but so are all of them that go offroad.

    Can you think of more issues?Packageing...body off(that works)!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoFrans View Post
    The bushes is more difficult.Stiffer bushes may effect the quality of the ride.Ask people that fitted poly bushes!!The bushes on my MB200K never lasted longer than 60k kms.Hopefully there is newer tech that can make them last longer.
    I doubt it. Rubber/poly/flexible bushes are sacrificial items, their entire reason for being is to wear out. What I don't understand is why most manufacturers force you to replace the ENTIRE control arm, and not just a bush. Sure, it's slightly cheaper for manufacturing but more expensive for replacement when one considers the cost of a rubber bush versus and entire metal control arm.

    And poly bushes can be cast in exactly the same Shore hardness as suspension rubber, you just need to know your product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I doubt it. Rubber/poly/flexible bushes are sacrificial items, their entire reason for being is to wear out. What I don't understand is why most manufacturers force you to replace the ENTIRE control arm, and not just a bush. Sure, it's slightly cheaper for manufacturing but more expensive for replacement when one considers the cost of a rubber bush versus and entire metal control arm.

    And poly bushes can be cast in exactly the same Shore hardness as suspension rubber, you just need to know your product.

    So would you say that one can do poly bushes for D3/4 with the same comfort as OE rubber but longer lasting??That would really be great.

    Agree 100% with your sentiment on replacing the compleet CA as upposed to only the bush.Workshops argue that replacing compleet arm is faster and that labour rates are so high that it is not viable to replace only the bushes.You also get new balljoints with the compleet arm.
    Apparently easy to damage the bushes when pressing them.
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