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    This thing is dressed up in fiberglass pannels and or body kits
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    Kia Soul on steroids.
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    There no ways that should be called a Defender,
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    Edited ...Being an ass...
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    I'm not crazy about the FJ-esque rear pillars. The rest of it needs the camo removing for a better look-see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceHun View Post
    I dont understand how you guys can actually tell what it looks like as it is so disguised and will look totally different without the 'disguise'.
    One can only hope....
    Always think: Could this be sarcasm?

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    Most probably a Defender-ish look underneath all the camo panels in
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    Something new and fresh , stepping out of a safari pak into chinos. Times change, will be exiting to see the final product.
    Hope it build so you can do field repairs should something go wrong instead of being stranded for days cause of a simple fault code only the dealer can reset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfe View Post
    Hope it build so you can do field repairs should something go wrong instead of being stranded for days cause of a simple fault code only the dealer can reset.
    No chance.
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    I have a Defender 90 2.8i with lifted suspension, front and rear diff-locks, etc...

    I also have (had...sorry) a D4 V8 and it could go EVERYWHERE the Defender went (most of the time with less effort) and yes, we really pushed it and took both to some serious grade 4/5 obsticles.

    The difference is that afterwards, I could drive home in the D4 for thousands of kilos at a speed the Defender only dream of in the utmost luxury and safety.


    The ones here who moan about IFS and airsuspension and, and....have never owned a vehicle like a D4 or D5. I reccomend you first drive such a vehicle before criticising.



    I am looking VERY MUCH forward to test my D5 against my Defender!!

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    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...g-public-roads

    Supposedly 2l diesel in this one - Ingenium?

    Sure that there is a lot of cladding to hide the actual profile and body panels.

    If it was going to be around R 500 - R 600 k - win.

    It won't. Another G Wagen for the posers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Regard View Post
    I have a Defender 90 2.8i with lifted suspension, front and rear diff-locks, etc...

    I also have (had...sorry) a D4 V8 and it could go EVERYWHERE the Defender went (most of the time with less effort) and yes, we really pushed it and took both to some serious grade 4/5 obsticles.

    The difference is that afterwards, I could drive home in the D4 for thousands of kilos at a speed the Defender only dream of in the utmost luxury and safety.


    The ones here who moan about IFS and airsuspension and, and....have never owned a vehicle like a D4 or D5. I reccomend you first drive such a vehicle before criticising.



    I am looking VERY MUCH forward to test my D5 against my Defender!!

    Regard my only issue with D4s/D5s etc is the cost to own once out of maintenance plan. If one can afford a new D5 (as you can), then there is just no substitute for these cars, but "armgatte" like me need a vehicle that is capable, but relatively reliable or at least easy to maintain.

    The old Defender ticked most of those boxes and we are just worried that the new one won't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew5336 View Post
    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...g-public-roads

    Supposedly 2l diesel in this one - Ingenium?

    Sure that there is a lot of cladding to hide the actual profile and body panels.

    If it was going to be around R 500 - R 600 k - win.

    It won't. Another G Wagen for the posers.
    Not a chance - this will be R800k+ unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou07 View Post
    Not a chance - this will be R800k+ unfortunately
    Yep, ENTRY LEVEL will be R800k+, topping out a lot higher as you go up the range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orxy View Post
    Most probably a Defender-ish look underneath all the camo panels in
    Seems to have a fake bonnet over the engine, and another fake bonnet on the roof to hide the “stepped roof” of the Disco shape
    And some padding on the window sills to hide a design line.
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    I reckon it will have the familiar rolled shoulder. It's been there since the SII and would have been a non negotiable in the styling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou07 View Post
    Regard my only issue with D4s/D5s etc is the cost to own once out of maintenance plan. If one can afford a new D5 (as you can), then there is just no substitute for these cars, but "armgatte" like me need a vehicle that is capable, but relatively reliable or at least easy to maintain.

    The old Defender ticked most of those boxes and we are just worried that the new one won't
    I hear you.

    But the engine management systems in the cheapest rental cars are no different to the ones in the most expensive Range Rovers.

    The days of fixing your carb with a piece of wire and a block of wood is long gone....for ALL cars.



    I have a Series III with leave springs and drum brakes and carbs and an oil bath air filter. I love it to bits....but is crap to drive compared to the Defender.

    The Defender have Solid axles and diff locks and disc brakes and air con. I love it to bits but it is crap to drive compared to the D4 V8.

    The D4 had it all but looking back...it is not half as nice to drive as the D5...


    That is the world for you. Never stands still. Progression is inevitable. We should embrace and enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regard View Post
    I hear you.


    That is the world for you. Never stands still. Progression is inevitable. We should embrace and enjoy it.

    No reason to slate the new.
    Very true. Just look at motorcycles. My Africa Twin has more electronic aids, sensors etc than a lot of cars do.
    And any of those can leave you stranded, or not. Most of the time, with some brain ingenuity you can get going again
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    Quote Originally Posted by hcs View Post
    Very true. Just look at motorcycles. My Africa Twin has more electronic aids, sensors etc than a lot of cars do.
    And any of those can leave you stranded, or not. Most of the time, with some brain ingenuity you can get going again

    As long as some of the technology is focused on making the cars more reliable then I'm all for it. Cars are infinitely more reliable today than they were 40 years ago, so if manufacturers keep putting at least some focus on that then I'm all for the new Defender - in 5 years' time when I can afford a good second hand one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regard View Post
    I hear you.

    But the engine management systems in the cheapest rental cars are no different to the ones in the most expensive Range Rovers.

    The days of fixing your carb with a piece of wire and a block of wood is long gone....for ALL cars.



    I have a Series III with leave springs and drum brakes and carbs and an oil bath air filter. I love it to bits....but is crap to drive compared to the Defender.

    The Defender have Solid axles and diff locks and disc brakes and air con. I love it to bits but it is crap to drive compared to the D4 V8.

    The D4 had it all but looking back...it is not half as nice to drive as the D5...


    That is the world for you. Never stands still. Progression is inevitable. We should embrace and enjoy it.

    No reason to slate the new.
    Agree 100% with the above, even my 2010 BT-50 has a ton of electrickery.

    BUT, this last weekend we were in the Transkei with an older D3 that, after 4 days, started but wouldn't leave first gear and was in limp mode. It then died and would not restart or leave 1st gear (to go into neutral) despite numerous phone calls to many gurus, resetting and trying to charge the battery with jumper cables.

    It went home on a flatbed (thank god we weren't still on the really bad section of road).

    If it is an alternator or battery issue as we suspect, and had been my bakkie, I think that we would have been able to push start my manual, more basic Mazda and get home whereas with something like a D3/4/5 if it dies you are screwed.

    And it weighs 3 tons loaded so my little 4x2 wasn't gonna pull it to Port St Johns even if we could get it in neutral.

    I agree that all cars are complex these days but some of them are less so than others.
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