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    Eish, I'm not terribly impressed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL8eWzx-8o.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NvD42 View Post
    Great .. I think that is Compomotives ... Just compared pic to mine and am 99% sure - wonder if they grinded the calipers ?
    I really want to run 18" on a P400 ...
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    Looks like a V8 is coming!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pjf110 View Post
    Only one I know of....but the 18” rim is the one to go far. Prado 150, land cruiser 200, some amaroks, ranger wildtrak, isuzu x-rider all run 18” rims.

    Bakkies started off with 15” then 16” then 17” and now 18”. Im sure more 19” tyre options will become available soon, although I think a 18” is about as low profile as I would like to go with 31-21” tyres.
    I am shattered.

    Since I bought it in 2010, getting 18" AT tyres for my Freelander 2 was virtually impossible. So I never did. 17" was standard on bakkies then, also the Prado, and you were spoilt for choice.

    I advised many - and still do - prospective LR2 owners to stay away from the 18" wheels. This was supported by a GV owner once having to get a spare 18" tyre in Namibia.

    So when I bought the XC60, I specifically opted for the 19" wheels due to commonality with the D4.

    Now you're telling me I am wrong again - for the next 8 years or so?

    So once again, LR was 10 years ahead of the time with their 18" HSE Freelander 2 rims.....

    If you fit those 19" wheels, the tyres will come. Famous quote by Kevin Costner, from some mealie field baseball movie, I think.

    PS. Pse ignore any tyre advice I give in future. The times seem to overtake me .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Eish, I'm not terribly impressed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL8eWzx-8o.
    So basically you'd be unable to climb any decent dirt road pass with a fully loaded New defender? Also not if you're towing an offroad trailer?

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    Solid axles bly maar baas..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    So basically you'd be unable to climb any decent dirt road pass with a fully loaded New defender? Also not if you're towing an offroad trailer?
    Lovely.
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    A fully-loaded 110 cannot possibly weigh as much as a G-Class.

    I'm not into off-road trailers, but surely they also don't weigh as much as a G-Class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    So basically you'd be unable to climb any decent dirt road pass with a fully loaded New defender? Also not if you're towing an offroad trailer?

    Lovely.

    From my understanding that one never had the rear locker. Land Rover should have made it standard considering the Defender is meant to be their off road icon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    Solid axles bly maar baas..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orxy View Post
    ?

    I'm not into off-road trailers, but surely they also don't weigh as much as a G-Class?
    GW is 2.5T

    Ratel 6 is 1.8T plus you need to add anything inside the Defender, so probably a gross mass of around 2T.

    I don't see the New Defender pulling that through Van Zyl's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Not one of them are SFA
    Ek weet, dis hoekom hulle so sukkel met die rowwer obstacles en die wiele so hoog op tel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Eish, I'm not terribly impressed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL8eWzx-8o.
    I'm not sure, I think all this video shows is that three locking differentials (G-Class) is better than one center diff lock and a reactionary traction control system under these conditions. I think we all knew that to be the case.

    What I would've liked to see him do is switch off the G-class diff locks (front and rear) on that tow test and see what the merc traction control system can do.

    I will say that even with poorer off road tyres on the G-wagon it walked these obstacles and is clearly THE off road benchmark when it comes to stock standard luxury SUV's (I'm very impressed with the G).

    I get your "eish" though, the defender is supposed to be the benchmark?

    Moral of this video? buy the Defender with a rear diff lock if you want to do gnarly off road stuff. As an overlander it looks perfect.

    PS - hit settings to turn on subtitles on YOUTUBE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Eish, I'm not terribly impressed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL8eWzx-8o.
    To be fair he did not drive the Landy correctly when it got hooked up. He reversed off the obstruction before trying to go up. When you ground an air sprung Landy if you raise the suspension while grounded you get another 50mm.

    The Defender should have cleared that obstacle.

    The Defender will happily pull a trailer up Van Zijl's as happily as any other vehicle. A trailer will not have as much drag as a 4x4 drive train with 3 diff locks on it. For that matter the drag on the Defender would be significantly less than the Mercedes let alone the additional mass.

    The Landy did better than expected. The challenge is if you plan to use your Defender off road you need to ensure it has the off-road bits. Like th E-diff etc. With that installed it would have competed comfortably with the G wagon. Even loaded to the hilt with options the Defender will still be more than a million rand cheaper than the G-wagon.


    So the real question is who will take a car worth more than 2.5 million Rand into the bush. G-wagon prices are terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChasingSunsets View Post

    I get your "eish" though, the defender is supposed to be the benchmark?

    Moral of this video? buy the Defender with a rear diff lock if you want to do gnarly off road stuff. As an overlander it looks perfect.
    I think I mentioned this earlier but selling a defender without a tow bar and and rear e-diff as standard is an insanely stupid oversight from land rover. I would have thought they learnt there lesson with the D2 that originally came without CDL.
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    Don't worry if you want to go up a steep hill, there are enough guys looking at the Ineos, so you can ask one of them to tow you up the hill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjf110 View Post
    I think I mentioned this earlier but selling a defender without a tow bar and and rear e-diff as standard is an insanely stupid oversight from land rover. I would have thought they learnt there lesson with the D2 that originally came without CDL.
    But no models of the previous Defender came with a rear diff lock... Why would it be such an issue with the new one? Yes it will have less articulation as the previous one, but the traction control system will more than make up for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jens78 View Post
    Eish, I'm not terribly impressed... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KL8eWzx-8o.
    Agree, comparing a car with 3 diff-locks and costing a million more to one with 1 diff-lock does not impress me much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oradba69 View Post
    Agree, comparing a car with 3 diff-locks and costing a million more to one with 1 diff-lock does not impress me much.

    In the same breath you could argue that a 1.4 million Defender does not impress based on the fact that for a million less you can get a Puma and fit 2 Ashcroft lockers so it has 3 diff-locks as well

    With 16inch rims and a proper sized tyre and better articulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    In the same breath you could argue that a 1.4 million Defender does not impress based on the fact that for a million less you can get a Puma and fit 2 Ashcroft lockers so it has 3 diff-locks as well
    Again, I will have to quote this and ask to please post this on Grenadier thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    In the same breath you could argue that a 1.4 million Defender does not impress based on the fact that for a million less you can get a Puma and fit 2 Ashcroft lockers so it has 3 diff-locks as well

    With 16inch rims and a proper sized tyre and better articulation.
    No matter how much you kit out a classic Defender, it's still going to be an uncomfortable, outdated, and unsafe vehicle.
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