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    Pity that electric vehicles are so expensive in SA !!!

    Well done to Jaguar !!


    "...a full recharge in an I-Pace will cost between R270 and R315.."

    https://www.wheels24.co.za/News/Gear...tions-20180913

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    "...a full recharge in an I-Pace will cost between R270 and R315.."

    Not for long.... soon the govmunt will add a levy on that as well

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    With a range of up to 470km depending on driving style and conditions on a single charge, an I-Pace will comfortably fit into most drivers’ lifestyles, whether it’s commuting to and from work on a daily basis, or travelling the long distances required for inter-city holiday destinations.
    Plan your overnight stops carefully if traveling Pta - CT, DBN etc

    https://www.jaguar.co.za/jaguar-rang...les/index.html

    PUBLIC CHARGING

    The best way to get a quick top up of your battery’s charge for those long journeys is with DC chargers – a typical 50kW charger can deliver up to 270km of range per hour*. As the public charging infrastructure improves, I‑PACE will be equipped to accept up to a 100kW DC charge rate. This means you can easily add 100km of range in just 15 minutes. Depending upon the service provider, public AC chargers can have a range of outputs. You can also find convenient charging points at places you may want to stay for several hours – or even overnight – including local shopping centres, hotels and gyms. Simply pull up, plug in, then go enjoy yourself.

    (It seems 350km range might be the more acceptable figure?)

    BTW I am not criticizing the concept or capability - I actually would love an i-Pace

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    ...hope they have a good steakhouse at each charge point, at 70min+ for a full charge I guess it would be best to fill up during Lunch hour & might as well have a steak while you wait
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    Fantastic news, but...
    I hate to pipi on their fire, but one would like to know more about the background specifics of this project.

    60kWh in 20 minutes relates to at least 180kW of supply required per car. Imagine 10 vehicles connect up over lunchtime for that "quick" charge, and you'll need a 2MW supply. At several stations along the N1 in the Karoo?

    There is one serious potential problem here.
    Where is all this high demand going to come from - Eishhkom??
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    You may want to read the article again before you expose yourself and take out that pipi.
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    Speaking of which, saw this the past weekend at Harrismith:


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    read and understand this before you buy that 'lectrick car

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    I am warming a lot to the idea of electric vehicles.

    We are currently in talks about moving to a new premises in 2021. Still early stages, but I read that one of the requirements will be charging stations at the office for employees with EV's.

    The above post about station in Harrismith is nice to see. I personally think that the first step will be to commute. I will gladly trade both our cars and replace with one family vehicle and one EV for commuting. That being said the range on the new Tesla 3 is starts at 350km and has options that give 476km and even over 500km. We need to stop anyway. Might as well change our traveling habits a bit, but this is becoming more and more a reality.

    By 2020 we will be able to buy any Volvo Car model in electric configuration. I believe other OEM's will follow soon.
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    And another one!

    http://www.carmag.co.za/news/finally...duction-model/

    On the new WLTP test cycle, it will cover more than 400 km on one battery charge, thanks in part to its energy recuperation system. In fact, the German brand says that every kilometre travelled downhill will bring an additional kilometre in range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman View Post
    I am warming a lot to the idea of electric vehicles.

    The above post about station in Harrismith is nice to see. I personally think that the first step will be to commute. I will gladly trade both our cars and replace with one family vehicle and one EV for commuting. That being said the range on the new Tesla 3 is starts at 350km and has options that give 476km and even over 500km. We need to stop anyway. Might as well change our traveling habits a bit, but this is becoming more and more a reality.

    By 2020 we will be able to buy any Volvo Car model in electric configuration. I believe other OEM's will follow soon.
    Personally I've been watching the prices of the Volvo XC90 twin engine. Somehow that car just appeals to me. Zero fuel consumption on the school run and in town, but still able to cruise down to Cape Town without worries.
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    For somebody doing a lot of commuting in our cities, we also need to concider safety.

    No point in killing yourself in a GO to save a few Rands, when you could be alive and poor in a ..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggie View Post
    There is one serious potential problem here.
    Where is all this high demand going to come from - Eishhkom??
    Just pull a trailer with a petrol generator
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    Or a solar panel on the roof.
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    Think about this; a parking garage covered in solar panels that charge your car while parked. Another revenue stream....I wonder, from an elec engineering perspective if this is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewLandy View Post
    Think about this; a parking garage covered in solar panels that charge your car while parked. Another revenue stream....I wonder, from an elec engineering perspective if this is possible.
    Expensive in terms of capital required, but feasible over time.
    It has been done.
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    Electric vehicles don't necessary need to add to our electric supply woes.

    The way I see it is offices and retail outlets (Malls) that offer charging station are generally market leaders in adapting to these practices. This in turns make it very likely that they already have a very green approach. Solar panels on the roof and car-parks are likely already in place.

    Now for home charging using Eskom. Why not use EV's to store excess power? Your demand should be much lower during 10 pm and 4 am, thus allowing you to charge (store) excess electricity during these periods. Should also be made available at better rates.
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    Considering this is South Africa....you have your new Jag and you are relying on the Harrismith charge point to be able to get to your destination, you arrive there and the charge point is broken, there are already 6 cars backed up waiting to charge.

    3hrs later the technician arrives from Jhb, 2hrs later its all fixed, 3hrs later the first 6 vehicles are charged and you finally get to the charge point but now must wait another 30mins for your vehicle too charge... 8.5hrs after arriving you leave.

    Welcome to the convenience of electric vehicles in Sa!!

    The scenario above is probably true for any country but you know its going to happen here for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman View Post
    Electric vehicles don't necessary need to add to our electric supply woes.

    The way I see it is offices and retail outlets (Malls) that offer charging station are generally market leaders in adapting to these practices. This in turns make it very likely that they already have a very green approach. Solar panels on the roof and car-parks are likely already in place.

    Now for home charging using Eskom. Why not use EV's to store excess power? Your demand should be much lower during 10 pm and 4 am, thus allowing you to charge (store) excess electricity during these periods. Should also be made available at better rates.
    Which ever way we swing it, the extra demand on Eskom will cripple the electrical supply system if we all moved over to EV's.

    Even with significant renewable input, the generation capacity would probably need to be an order of magnitude bigger than it is now.

    There are way more cars than houses in SA. A good metric is that an average household consumes about 25kWH per day. A small econobox EV on an average commute probably about the same. (Here I am talking middle income three bedroom house and two/three car family.)

    A 25-50kWH per day home Solar plant will cost an arm and a leg, and probably also a left b....

    And then we get a week of rain and two things happen.

    1/. Eskom runs out of coal because all the EV's are now charging from the grid, and we get load shedding, crippling even the people that don't have Solar.

    2/. The country grinds to a halt because nobody has power to get to work.

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    Disclaimer -

    1/. I am a huge renewable and EV supporter/freak.
    2/. We aren't there yet with technology for widespread rollout.
    3/. We will get there.
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