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    Default How likely is your vehicle to be stolen?

    These are apparently SAPS figures, I can't vouch for it, neither can I say for which 12 month period it is. Does someone else have more info about this, maybe somebody in the Insurance industy?

    Vehicle Type 12 Month Total

    ALFA ROMEO 156 5
    ALFA SPIDER 1
    AUDI A3 17
    AUDI A4 62
    AUDI A4 Tdi 5
    AUDI A6 11
    AUDI A8 1
    AUDI RS AVANT 1
    AUDI TT 1
    BMW 316 18
    BMW 318 77
    BMW 320i 58
    BMW 320D 18
    BMW 323i 11
    BMW 325i 30
    BMW 328i 8
    BMW 330D 2
    BMW 330i 14
    BMW 333i 0
    BMW 520 0
    BMW 523 1
    BMW 525 18
    BMW 528i 5
    BMW 530D 1
    BMW 530i 6
    BMW 535i 3
    BMW 540i 2
    BMW 640i 0
    BMW 730i 0
    BMW 735i 1
    BMW 740i 6
    BMW 750i 0
    BMW 850i 0
    BMW M3 10
    BMW M5 2
    BMW Z3 6
    BMW X5 24
    BMW MOTORBIKE 1
    CHEROKEE JEEP 1
    CHRYSLER WRANGLER 0
    CHRYSLER NEON 7
    CHRYSLER PT 4
    CHRYSLER VOYAGER 10
    CATERPILLAR 1
    CITROEN BERLINGO 0
    CITROEN C5 0
    CITROEN PICASSO 2
    DAIHATSU FEROZA 1
    DAEWOO CIELO 1
    DAEWOO LANOS 0
    DAEWOO NUBIRA 0
    DMA 3,5 TON 0
    DUCATTI 900SS 0
    FIAT PALIO 8
    FIAT SECEINTO 0
    FIAT UNO 24
    FIAT MIA 8
    FORD BANTAM 51
    FORD CORTINA 1
    FORD COURIER 65
    FORD DRIFTER 0
    FORD ESCORT 1
    FORD FAIRMONT 1
    FORD FALCON 1
    FORD FIESTA 14
    FORD FOCUS 7
    FORD HUSKY 6
    FORD ICON 1
    FORD LASER 16
    FORD LEISURE 1
    FORD METEOR 5
    FORD MONDEO 1
    FORD RANCHERO 0
    FORD RANGER 57
    FORD SIERRA 0
    FORD SPECTRON 6
    FORD TELSTAR 1
    FORD TRACER 1
    FORD TRITON 2
    HONDA ACCORD 2
    HONDA BALLADE 27
    HONDA X 200 0
    HONDA CD 200 0
    HONDA CB250N 0
    HONDA CIVIC 13
    HONDA CRV 4
    HONDA JAZZ 1
    HONDA MOTORBIKE 0
    HONDA PRELUDE 2
    HYUNDAI ACCENT 2
    HYUNDAI BAKKIE 28
    HYUNDAI ELANTRA 4
    HYUNDAI GETZ 2
    HYUNDAI H100 10
    HYUNDAI MINIBUS 1
    HYUNDAI SANTAFE 0
    HYUNDAI SONATA 0
    HYUNDAI TIBURON 4
    ISUZU FRONTIER 9
    ISUZU KB200 29
    ISUZU KB220 3
    ISUZU KB230 2
    ISUZU KB250 114
    ISUZU KB260 12
    ISUZU KB270 0
    ISUZU KB280 122
    ISUZU KB280 D/C 0
    ISUZU KB300 20
    ISUZU KB320 6
    IVECO 10
    JEEP CHEROKEE 42
    JEEP COUNTRY 0
    JEEP WRANGELER 2
    KAWASAKI ZXC 9R 0
    KIA CARNIVAL 1
    KIA SPORTAGE 2
    KIA K2400 0
    KIA K2700 17
    KIA PREGIO 0
    KIA SHUMA 0
    LADA NIVA 0
    LANDROVER DISC 14
    LANDROVER DEFEN 1
    LANDROVER FREEL 13
    MAZDA ASTINA 0
    MAZDA 2.6 DC 0
    MAZDA 323 40
    MAZDA 626 2
    MAZDA B1600 1
    MAZDA B1800 10
    MAZDA B2000 6
    MAZDA B2200 9
    MAZDA B2500 17
    MAZDA B2600 1
    MAZDA B3000 2
    MAZDA DRIFTER 43
    MAZDA ETUDE 8
    MAZDA MAGNUM 2
    MAZDA MARATHON 21
    MAZDA MIDGE 8
    MAZDA MX6 0
    MAZDA RUSTLER 23
    MAZDA RX8 0
    MAZDA STING 12
    MAZDA SOHO 0
    MAZDA V1800 0
    MERC 1214 2
    MERC 1417 3
    MERC 1729 2
    MERC 19285 0
    MERC 2636S 5
    MERC 230C KOMP 3
    MERC A160 6
    MERC A190 0
    MERC 190E 0
    MERC 200E 2
    MERC 220E 0
    MERC 230E 6
    MERC 260E 0
    MERC 280E 0
    MERC 300E 2
    MERC 320E 1
    MERC 380SE 1
    MERC 420SE 0
    MERC 500SE 2
    MERC 500SL 1
    MERC 560SEL 0
    MERC 300TE 0
    MERC C180 26
    MERC C200 43
    MERC C220 5
    MERC C230 28
    MERC C240 8
    MERC C250 0
    MERC C270 8
    MERC C280 7
    MERC C320 11
    MERC CLK200 0
    MERC CLK320 9
    MERC CLK430 1
    MERC CLK500 2
    MERC E200 7
    MERC E220 3
    MERC E230 0
    MERC E240 13
    MERC E270Cdi 1
    MERC E280 2
    MERC E320 13
    MERC E420 0
    MERC E430 0
    MERC E500 2
    MERC ML270 5
    MERC ML320 1
    MERC ML430 3
    MERC POWERLINE 4
    MERC S320 2
    MERC S500 1
    MERC SL300 0
    MERC SL500 1
    MERC SL600 0
    MERC SLK200 4
    MERC SLK230 2
    MERC SLK320 1
    MERC SPRINTER 32
    MG TF160 1
    MINI COOPER 8
    MITS CANTER 17
    MITS COLT 2.5 13
    MITS COLT 2800 1
    MITS COLT HI-LINE 3
    MITS L300 52
    MITS PAJERO 12
    MITS STARWAGON 4
    NISSAN 1 TON 61
    NISSAN 1400 507
    NISSAN 1600 1
    NISSAN 1800 1
    NISSAN 2.0 3
    NISSAN 2.4 10
    NISSAN 2.5 2
    NISSAN 2.7 10
    NISSAN 3000 5
    NISSAN 200Sti 0
    NISSAN 3L LDV 1
    NISSAN E20 16
    NISSAN HI RIDER 6
    NISSAN HARDBODY 141
    NISSAN ALMEIRA 11
    NISSAN LANGLEY 1
    NISSAN MAXIMA 3
    NISSAN PATROL 2
    NISSAN PRIMERA 2
    NISSAN SABRE 2
    NISSAN SANI 6
    NISSAN SENTRA 41
    NISSAN SX 200 0
    NISSAN TERRANO 1
    NISSAN QX 0
    NISSAN X-TRAIL 12
    OPEL ASTRA 29
    OPEL CORSA 130i 14
    OPEL CORSA 160i 11
    OPEL CORSA UTILITY 22
    OPEL ESTATE 0
    OPEL KADETT 7
    OPEL MONZA 2
    OPEL RECORD 0
    OPEL ZAFIRA 1
    PEUGEOT 206 4
    PEUGEOT 306 1
    PEUGEOT 307 6
    PEUGEOT 406 0
    PORSCHE 5
    PORSCHE CAYENNE 1
    RENAULT CLIO 5
    RENAULT KANGOO 1
    RENAULT MEGANE 5
    RENAULT SCENIC 9
    ROVER 75 2
    SAAB 9.3 CONV 1
    SUZUKI VITARA 1
    SUZUKI GN250 1
    SUZUKI GS500 0
    SUZUKI GSXR600 0
    SUZUKI GSXR750 0
    SUZUKI TL1000R 0
    SSANGYONG MUS 2
    SUBARU IMPREZA 1
    TATA 4
    TOYOTA 1800 PV 0
    TOYOTA CAMRY 17
    TOYOTA CONDOR 45
    TOYOTA CONQUEST 88
    TOYOTA COROLLA 209
    TOYOTA CRESSIDA 28
    TOYOTA DYNA 60
    TOYOTA HIACE 1119
    TOYOTA HILUX 497
    TOYOTA HINO 53
    TOYOTA LANDCRUISER 32
    TOYOTA MR2 0
    TOYOTA PRADO 19
    TOYOTA PREVIA 0
    TOYOTA RAIDER 13
    TOYOTA RAV4 12
    TOYOTA RUNX 37
    TOYOTA SIYAYA 2l 24
    TOYOTA SPRINTER 0
    TOYOTA STALLION 69
    TOYOTA VENTURE 270
    TOYOTA TAZZ 55
    TRIUMPH TIGER 0
    VOLVO 850 GLT 2
    VOLVO C70 1
    VOLVO F12 13
    VOLVO S40 13
    VOLVO S60 3
    VOLVO S70 1
    VOLVO S80 4
    VOLVO V40 2
    VOLVO V60 0
    VOLVO V70 0
    VW BEETLE 3
    VW CADDY 10
    VW CARAVELLE 33
    VW CHICO GOLF 75
    VW CITI Cti 0
    VW CITI GOLF 103
    VW CITI SONIC 1
    VW GOLF CABRIOLET 1
    VW GOLF 3 2.0 5
    VW GOLF 4 1.6 19
    VW GOLF 4 1.8 2
    VW GOLF 4 2.0 9
    VW GOLF CL 1
    VW GOLF GSX 4
    VW GOLF GTS 1
    VW GOLF Gti 32
    VW GOLF tdi 12
    VW GOLF VR6 8
    VW FOX 2
    VW JETTA 11
    VW JETTA 4 1.9TD 4
    VW JETTA 4 2.3 V5 2
    VW JETTA 16V EXEC 0
    VW JETTA VR6 1
    VW KOMBI 1
    VW MICROBUS 67
    VW PANELVAN 0
    VW PASSAT 3
    VW POLO 1.4 16
    VW POLO 1.6 8
    VW POLO 1.8 2
    VW POLO CLASSIC 59
    VW POLO HATCH 4
    VW POLO PLAYER 33
    VW SHARAN 4
    VW SHUTTLE 0
    VW SONIC 0
    VW TOURAN 3
    VW VOLKSIEBUS 1
    YAMAHA SR250 2
    YAMAHA AG200 0
    YAMAHA R1 0
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    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    So.... the old 1400 bakkie beats the Hilux..... and... my car is not even on the list.... Fantastic.....
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    Have now covered 220 000Km on veg oil.
    Oh, and an Isuzu 280DT.

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    Sorted it a bit:
    Attached Files Attached Files

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    I see 4 x Tata was stolen. WHY? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    I see 4 x Tata was stolen. WHY? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
    • ignorance?
    • masochism?
    • spares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    I see 4 x Tata was stolen. WHY? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
    Die eienaar het dit net langs die pad gelos, en as gesteel aangegee.
    No one ever ruined their eyesight by looking at the BRIGHT side!!
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqw5...ature=youtu.be

    Another teazer.....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51KljMSXOnI




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    Het hy dit langs die pad gelos - of moes hy maar huis toe stap nadat die TATA vir tata gesę het?

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    Wat natuurlik my [email protected] se deksel is, is die 1 x Caterpilar wat gesteel is? Hoe het hy sy getaway gedoen sonder om opgemerk te word?
    No one ever ruined their eyesight by looking at the BRIGHT side!!
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    Nissan Patrol 4.8
    Nissan King Cab (aka Navara )
    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
    Albert Einstein

    Whoooopa 3 The Goat strike back


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqw5...ature=youtu.be

    Another teazer.....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51KljMSXOnI




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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans Reichert View Post
    Wat natuurlik my [email protected] se deksel is, is die 1 x Caterpilar wat gesteel is? Hoe het hy sy getaway gedoen sonder om opgemerk te word?
    Easy. Seen it!
    Arrive after hours (weekend) with a low bed.
    Tell the guard (if he's not part of the scheme), that Mr ..... sent for the Bull Dozer / Excavator to be moved to another site.

    By Monday, it's a thousand kms away, and working to make money!

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    That is acctually a very profitable line.

    If you steal civils equipment, you are home free. No reg no. No gov database. Just the manufacturer.

    If you are a contractor and you can get a R300,000 piece of kit for R50,000, you might just be tempted.
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    Het 1 van julle vir my 'n afsetpunt? Hier is 'n klomp delwers hier rondom ons Oom 4e, hoe lank dink jy sal dit vir my vat om met 'n Cat D8 ,P.E. toe te ry? Ek besef dit sal in die nag moet gebeur as niemand kyk nie.
    No one ever ruined their eyesight by looking at the BRIGHT side!!
    Ford Ranger 4l 4x4
    Nissan Patrol 4.8
    Nissan King Cab (aka Navara )
    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
    Albert Einstein

    Whoooopa 3 The Goat strike back


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqw5...ature=youtu.be

    Another teazer.....
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51KljMSXOnI




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    Quote Originally Posted by Frans Reichert View Post
    Het 1 van julle vir my 'n afsetpunt? Hier is 'n klomp delwers hier rondom ons Oom 4e, hoe lank dink jy sal dit vir my vat om met 'n Cat D8 ,P.E. toe te ry? Ek besef dit sal in die nag moet gebeur as niemand kyk nie.
    Afset punt? Na-da.

    Op 'n low-bed ? Oornag.

    Op sy "tracks" ? Vir ewig! Die "grouser shoes" en "idler pulleys" sal kapot wees lank voor jy daar kom!


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    like was said

    that could be an old list

    where is the Toyota Yaris, and the Golf 5, sure those have been nicked as well!!

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    I am amazed that no KB 280 D/C were stolen.

    Do any of you remember one Christmas holidays a few years ago where a site watchman thought his bonus was too small? He simply put a 44 gallon drum of diesel in the front of the site dumper and headed for the Transkei. He got as far as Sir Lowreys Pass before the Provincial cops pulled him over. Besides no drivers license , there was no numberplate (no anti theft screws either) no indicators, vehicle license or anything else.

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    hehe no jimny's yet

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    I dont think these are true figures , Why , Look at the VW gholf
    that figure is way to low.

    Unless this is from one cop station only

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    VW CHICO GOLF 75
    VW CITI Cti 0
    VW CITI GOLF 103
    VW CITI SONIC 1
    VW GOLF 3 2.0 5
    VW GOLF 4 1.6 19
    VW GOLF 4 1.8 2
    VW GOLF 4 2.0 9
    VW GOLF CL 1
    VW GOLF GSX 4
    VW GOLF GTS 1
    VW GOLF Gti 32
    VW GOLF tdi 12
    VW GOLF VR6 8


    around 260, more than 20 a month....
    Malcolm van Coller - retired but remained living in Johannesburg (love it here, can find everything you want and need here in Jhb)
    2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (Standard Traction Control plus Front Diff Locker)
    2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL (Packing system, 60lt water tank, std rear locker, LOKKA on front, two 105ah aux batteries on NL system, larger Cirrus intercooler, complete 76mm exhaust system)
    2003 Bushwakka Shorti (extra luggage space for customers on when on safari (with 160 H/Moon Star Gazer RTT and 100lt water tanks)
    Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi (Limited Slip Diffs Front and Rear) with Jurgens RTT for Guiding trips
    Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II for personal camping
    Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto (disaster that box was!) - Lexus V8 transplant
    Ex 1984 Nissan Safari (Poelies Vehn) 2.8 Stationwagon with 5 speed conversion, rusted like it was paid to rust!
    Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
    Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle) that whet my appetite for overlanding.
    Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)

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    A total does not tell the full story (even if it is correct) - you need to put the totals into context with the amount of such vehicles on the road ... and yes, the more popular the vehicle (new ones sold), the more to be stolen ... a % would have been interesting ...

    If there is 10 stolen, but only 100 on the road, you have a 10% chance of being ripped off if you drive one. And 100 out of 10000 vehicles (like the Golf), it is only a 1% chance (or risk?) ... would thus like to know where the insurance companies get their statement "the Golf is the vehicle most stolen" from - perception of totals or % ?
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    If these figures are accurate, then us Gatswaai okies are safe for now

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    As was mentioned above by Oupoot, such figures as quoted by the OP mean absolutely nothing.

    In order to assess the risk of any particular vehicle type to be stolen, theft figures must be looked at as a % of such vehicles registered in the country. Then one must also consider the geographical area in which thefts have taken place.

    But don't worry, the insurance companies employ very clever mathematicians to do this kind of calculations. You only have to look at your insurance premium relative to another vehicle type of the same value & same geographical are to see if your risk is lower or higher.
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