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    Default FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    Morning,
    My FL2 went in for its 6 year (84,000km) service this morning at Landrover Waterford, and I was called to say that the motor fan needs to be replaced as the fan turns on when the car turns on and doesn't turn off - so it will run the battery flat. Oh, by the way - this will cost R14,700 and is NOT covered by my Innovations policy. To quote the service assistant: The policy you have is Moto Mend and it does not cover the motor fan only the radiator and water pump (to do with the fan)
    I haven't noticed that the car is running cool (I haven't looked particularly), does this sound familiar to anyone or is someone trying to take advantage here, seeing as the car is out of a maintenance plan?

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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    Viscous fan? Make big noise? You should hear it running after the car has switched off... does it stop? If so, after how long?
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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    it does run (I can hear it when the car is cooling down after I turn it off), but not for too long, maybe a few minutes(?) - has been the same for as long as I can remember. Never thought to much about it..

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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    If I recall, mine did the same... was a 2011 and therefore it was 5yrs old when i sold it.. don't think you should worry just yet.. as long as it turns on and then does also turn off.

    perhaps when you get another aftermarket warranty look for one that covers it or at least some of it.
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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    I don't know the FL2 but,
    Their reasoning sounds off....
    Why replace the fan motor if it is actually still working (running)?
    It sounds to me as if the control circuit might have a problem, some thermostat or other electronics is not switching off the motor so why would replacing the motor fix this?
    Take it somewhere else for a second opinion / diagnostics.
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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    Sounds a bit dodgy to me.

    Replace a fan if it is NOT working. Clearly, when it gets power it runs. So, it energises the fan but does not switch off after ignition/engine is cut. There must be a relay or a switch or a sensor that brings it on and shuts it off.

    I cant see why a working fan must be replaced? I cant see how at all it can run when 12V power is cut to the fan. There must be something in the control circuit that is not breaking the contact and keeps supplying the fan with 12V power.


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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    I suggest an independent Land Rover specialist, the dealer is trying his luck.

    A fan, regardless of viscous or electrical, isn't R14,700 unless they've padded the quote with a LOT of labour hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I suggest an independent Land Rover specialist, the dealer is trying his luck.

    A fan, regardless of viscous or electrical, isn't R14,700 unless they've padded the quote with a LOT of labour hours.

    That's the feeling I get, and it actually really upsets me. I've been going to the same LR dealer since I bought the car, and have always had great service from them. So sad that as soon as the plans expire, they take a chance to rip the ring out of a owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnh100 View Post
    So sad that as soon as the plans expire, they take a chance to rip the ring out of a owner.
    All the brands do this. It's how they pay for those nice big buildings and all the mechanics and the free coffee.
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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    The FL2 fan control unit is part of the fan which could be why its expensive but that still sounds very expensive. I wouldnt be replacing it. If the FL2 aircon is on the fan is gonna run. Switch aircon off and fan stops. Thats how mine is

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    All the brands do this. It's how they pay for those nice big buildings and all the mechanics and the free coffee.
    The thermostat control units on the FL2s are known to fail.

    My wife's and mother's vehicle's units failed. The price sounds about right to replace the entire setup but if you contact LRXtreme they can replace just the faulty component for a fraction of the price.. if it is the problem I'm thinking of.

    Either way, get a second opinion from an independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnh100 View Post
    That's the feeling I get, and it actually really upsets me. I've been going to the same LR dealer since I bought the car, and have always had great service from them. So sad that as soon as the plans expire, they take a chance to rip the ring out of a owner.
    Dawn, speak to the Service Manager as well as Sales Manager, Schalk.

    This sounds very fishy to me and they seem to be trying to make money out of you. Take the vehicle to Peter at OverlandWor for a second opinion.
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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    I'm definitely going to get a second opinion.. The quote for the part is part is just over R11k (LR011905) - and I've asked for a written explanation on why the whole thing needs to be replaced too.
    Appreciate the assistance and advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    I suggest an independent Land Rover specialist, the dealer is trying his luck.

    A fan, regardless of viscous or electrical, isn't R14,700 unless they've padded the quote with a LOT of labour hours.
    That price is Right. And Land Rover is crazy for charging that. Replaced an Evoque fan yesterday. Quoted price for just the fan was R15700.


    The Fan was perfect, but the control module melted some solder joints on the circuit board causing the fan module to go into a safe mode thus keeping the fan running all the time. You don't get the modules seperate. We're not allowed to fix modules. I know other independent guys do fix the module for a Fraction of the price.
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    So... the plot thickens with this little part: LR011905

    Apparently, the Innovation group MotoMend policy doesn't cover this part (Benefit 1 clearly states unlimited cover of Viscous and electrical fans), but according to Maira - the actual policy (and I quote): "The policy you have is Moto Mend and it does not cover the motor fan only the radiator and water pump (to do with the fan)".

    The follow up on my actual fan when I picked up my car is that the technicians originally suspected that the fan control module had an internal error. However, since they cleared the fault codes all seems fine and the concern was resolved...
    Isn't it amazing that all is fixed, and insurance doesn't cover it??


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawnh100 View Post
    So... the plot thickens with this little part: LR011905

    Apparently, the Innovation group MotoMend policy doesn't cover this part (Benefit 1 clearly states unlimited cover of Viscous and electrical fans), but according to Maira - the actual policy (and I quote): "The policy you have is Moto Mend and it does not cover the motor fan only the radiator and water pump (to do with the fan)".

    The follow up on my actual fan when I picked up my car is that the technicians originally suspected that the fan control module had an internal error. However, since they cleared the fault codes all seems fine and the concern was resolved...
    Isn't it amazing that all is fixed, and insurance doesn't cover it??

    Makes me really wonder if I should bother with a policy that refuses to pay out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Makes me really wonder if I should bother with a policy that refuses to pay out.
    I am doubting if they even called the innovations people.. All too convenient. I've mailed them this morning - and will update you on the response

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    Default Re: FL2 - Engine fan apparently needs replacement

    Good AfternoonI had this once on a vehicle when the battery started giving up the ghost. The computer gets a bit confused due to low voltage. The fan will run for a couple of minutes then switch off. Did not experience any other problems, like running hot or too cold.Replaced battery a couple of weeks later and all was sorted.Kind Regards

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    My Range Rover Evoque 2011 Si4 started doing something similar . The radiator fan came on and would just never switch off. The only way to switch it off would be to disconnect the battery or take the plug out of the Engine fan module itself.

    Took it to landrover and they want to charge me just shy of 20K to fix it .
    So I took it too LR Extreme in PTA. Although cheaper, ball park would be about R17800 to fix because they get the part from landrover as one unit.
    So now I've just come back from the US and I managed to get just the individual part there , as they don't deliver to "Africa" ( ie: without having to get the whole unit, comprising of fans and wiring etc).
    Should cost even less than half to fix if the original diagnosis is correct and I can do the actual fix myself.
    Send me a PM if you have this issue on an Evoque or FL2

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceHun View Post
    Dawn, speak to the Service Manager as well as Sales Manager, Schalk.

    This sounds very fishy to me and they seem to be trying to make money out of you. Take the vehicle to Peter at Overland Worx for a second opinion.
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