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    Default Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Calling on forum experience!!!

    My father has bought himself a forward control 2b that he plans on using for over landing.
    The very first thing he did was drop the leyland 2.6... at 25l/100km and only 67kw it was never going to be feasible.

    So what engine and gearbox combo?
    His requirements
    Something simple i.e. no computers, Diesel and reasonable fuel consumption.

    The chassis rails are 630mm apart. Length shouldn't be much of a problem.

    He has access to a small boiler shop, so fabrication shouldn't be an issue.
    1985 Land Rover 110 - 300tdi conversion


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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    The long weekend carnage.

    Engine, gearbox, front diff and firewall removed.


    1985 Land Rover 110 - 300tdi conversion


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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Investigate a Toyota 2L (2.4 Diesel) fitted with a Garret Turbo. You can get a adaptor plate to fit this engine to the existing Landy Gear box from Gilo engineering in Booysens in the South Of Johannesburg. You can Google them. doing a Turbo conversion on these engines is very easy.....

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    Default Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Looking at something like a
    nissan QD32T or TD27Ti
    Isuzu 4JG2
    Merc OM603 - not easy to find one with low mileage.
    GMC 6.2 V8 diesel

    need some other recommendations
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    1985 Land Rover 110 - 300tdi conversion


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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iLandy View Post
    Looking at something like a
    nissan QD32T or TD27Ti
    Isuzu 4JG2
    Merc OM603 - not easy to find one with low mileage.
    GMC 6.2 V8 diesel

    need some other recommendations
    What about a 300TDi with a VGT Turbo the VGT turbo makes a huge diffrance R380 and then you can use a LT230 so no need for adaptor plates
    The only prob there would be weight of the forward control to much for the 300TDi
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iLandy View Post
    Looking at something like a
    nissan QD32T or TD27Ti
    Isuzu 4JG2
    Merc OM603 - not easy to find one with low mileage.
    GMC 6.2 V8 diesel

    need some other recommendations
    all good choices except for the GMC which is a huge pig of an engine

    also: Ford WL25, Isuzu 4JB1-T

    STAY AWAY FROM THE TOYOTA 2L (sorry Moeras, but they were garbage engines).
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by clivemd View Post
    What about a 300TDi with a VGT Turbo the VGT turbo makes a huge diffrance R380 and then you can use a LT230 so no need for adaptor plates
    The only prob there would be weight of the forward control to much for the 300TDi
    The FC2B isn't that heavy. 2050kg.
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Isuzu 280 DT
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by iLandy View Post
    Looking at something like a
    nissan QD32T or TD27Ti
    Isuzu 4JG2
    Merc OM603 - not easy to find one with low mileage.
    GMC 6.2 V8 diesel

    need some other recommendations
    Imho and not a mechanic. But if I was to travel Africa,I would look for a simple engine that is common in all of Africa,something that does not need a special octane of fuel to run it.
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    Imho and not a mechanic. But if I was to travel Africa,I would look for a simple engine that is common in all of Africa,something that does not need a special octane of fuel to run it.
    none of those do

    most of them will run on Waste Veg Oil or even paraffin
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post

    STAY AWAY FROM THE TOYOTA 2L (sorry Moeras, but they were garbage engines).
    You don't have a clue what you're talking about!
    There is never a right time to do the wrong thing and never a wrong time to do the right thing!

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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    You don't have a clue what you're talking about!
    OK if you say so.
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Moeras View Post
    Investigate a Toyota 2L (2.4 Diesel) fitted with a Garret Turbo. You can get a adaptor plate to fit this engine to the existing Landy Gear box from Gilo engineering in Booysens in the South Of Johannesburg. You can Google them. doing a Turbo conversion on these engines is very easy.....
    What will the outputs be of this turbo 2.4 toyota diesel engine?
    Will it be reliable?
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by UITZICHT View Post
    What will the outputs be of this turbo 2.4 toyota diesel engine?
    Will it be reliable?
    63 to 68 kW gross at 4,000 rpm with 188 N⋅m gross of torque at 2,200 rpm

    too small for the FC2B

    and no, the Turbo version had a reputation for always overheating
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    6,5 GMC on an R380 box....going in my 101Click image for larger version. 

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    Total length - 1,88 mtrs
    Total weight - +/- 560kg
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    I've got a Merc 300d as well

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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    You don't have a clue what you're talking about!
    Strange...I know of 4 landys (3 x88's, 1 x 109) that had them fitted...and then pulled out again.
    Problem is the working rpm ( sweet spot)

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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryFrank View Post
    Strange...I know of 4 landys (3 x88's, 1 x 109) that had them fitted...and then pulled out again.
    Problem is the working rpm ( sweet spot)
    yep me too, but remember, we know nothing Gary
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Td27ti, of QD32ti, met meganiese pomp, en gilo adaptor na landy gearbox.

    Basies n straight drop in.
    No nomsense engine, geen elektronika, en was nog na 2010 in afrika verkoop in nuwe bakkies wees hul robust design.

    Tussen 90 en 115kw, 300-400nm
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    Default Re: Engine conversion: Forward Control

    Leaning towards a Jap import as they are supposedly low mileage (under 100K).With the QD32 what transmission and transfercase combo would work? Something out of a patrol maybe? Transfercase needs to fall to the right.The ENV diffs on the forward control have a ratio of 4.7.
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