New hydrogen from ammonia fuel for cars from Aus




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    Default New hydrogen from ammonia fuel for cars from Aus

    Great news. The scientists in Aus have developed a new method of manufacturing hydrogen fuel from ammonia so the problem of delivering the fuel to depots country and even worldwide is now totally safe and economically. hopefully this will be the first of many such technologies.

    Hydrogen fueled engines are hugely more efficient and 5kg's of hydrogen allows a range of 800km according to Honda and Hundai and with 0 emissions.

    Even if it is a temporary solution until battery technology is sorted out it would be a great bonus.

    Maybe this will be what breaks the stranglehold oil producers have on world economies and remains one of the greatest sources of air pollution in cities.

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    Default Re: New hydrogen from ammonia fuel for cars from Aus

    There's not much that is more toxic than ammonia, I would not like to see tons of it stored at "gas" stations whether in town or the country.

    Ammonia is nasty stuff, one good breadth and its tickets. Its also heavier than air, so any clouds of it will stay close to the ground. No, only those promoting chemical warfare will advocate its widespread use.

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    Default Re: New hydrogen from ammonia fuel for cars from Aus

    Quote Originally Posted by RussellF View Post
    There's not much that is more toxic than ammonia, I would not like to see tons of it stored at "gas" stations whether in town or the country.

    Ammonia is nasty stuff, one good breadth and its tickets. Its also heavier than air, so any clouds of it will stay close to the ground. No, only those promoting chemical warfare will advocate its widespread use.
    Ammonia is corrosive, but not as toxic as you might think.

    In high concentrations in the air it becomes unbearable to withstand, and in that lies one's saving grace. It causes very serious discomfort brought on by burning of the eyes, nose, and throat. Eyes can be damaged and lungs can be damaged. And yes absolutely, death is likely when you cannot escape from high concentrations of the gas.

    However, one's nose is ultra sensitive to even low concentrations of ammonia in the air, and it is common for humans and animals to flee away asap from any sources of the gas due to the extreme discomfort caused by it. Your instincts would have you remove yourself from sources of leakage really promptly, and death by ammonia is rare indeed.

    Ammonia is commonly used in household cleaning solutions, and also industrial air conditioning plants. For the reasons listed above, it not regarded as a serious health risk.

    Sure, any combustible material (solids, fluid or gas) that is stored in high volumes has risks. Ammonia as such is not combustible, and the hydrogen component would have to separated from it before you have a gas that can be ignited easily.
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    Default Re: New hydrogen from ammonia fuel for cars from Aus

    Quote Originally Posted by Eggie View Post
    Ammonia is corrosive, but not as toxic as you might think.

    In high concentrations in the air it becomes unbearable to withstand, and in that lies one's saving grace. It causes very serious discomfort brought on by burning of the eyes, nose, and throat. Eyes can be damaged and lungs can be damaged. And yes absolutely, death is likely when you cannot escape from high concentrations of the gas.

    However, one's nose is ultra sensitive to even low concentrations of ammonia in the air, and it is common for humans and animals to flee away asap from any sources of the gas due to the extreme discomfort caused by it. Your instincts would have you remove yourself from sources of leakage really promptly, and death by ammonia is rare indeed.

    Ammonia is commonly used in household cleaning solutions, and also industrial air conditioning plants. For the reasons listed above, it not regarded as a serious health risk.

    Sure, any combustible material (solids, fluid or gas) that is stored in high volumes has risks. Ammonia as such is not combustible, and the hydrogen component would have to separated from it before you have a gas that can be ignited easily.
    I stand to be corrected here, but I believe the key break through here is more that this technology allows hydrogen to be transported easily in the form of ammonia. This means a place like Australia can convert natural resources of wind and solar energy into Hydrogen, store it in the form of ammonia and ship it fairly easily to places like Korea and Japan that are rapidly converting into hydrogen economies where it can be converted back into hydrogen using this particular technology before being distributed to users (filling stations and power plants).

    The attached are fairly interesting reading on the subject.
    https://www.greentechmedia.com/artic...lng#gs.QpWg3Yg
    https://reneweconomy.com.au/s-a-to-h...r-plant-89447/
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-1...valley/9643570
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-1...inery/10003812
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-0...for-sa/9526706
    https://www.gladstoneobserver.com.au...n-bid/3451309/

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