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    Our newspaper journalists and editors are getting bad with both grammar and spelling. Many commentators are no better. Soon the Oxford dictionary has to make more adjustments.

    Chickens still grates, even though it has been an acceptable plural word for a long time.

    Other "favourites" are using 'is' instead of 'are'. There is many people who... The Aussies like this. It's used a lot here too.

    Confusing 'number' and 'amount'. The amount of people....

    Dropping 'ly' off adjectives. Anderson played magnificent...

    It must annoy the Zulu speakers as well how many pronounce various names, especially those containing 'k' and 't'. These, without an attached 'h', are soft Ks (hard G) and soft Ts (hard D). eg Jaluka should be pronounced Jaluga. If it was written as Jalukha, you would pronounce it with an english K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Owch.

    There’s nothing more difficult for an Engelsman than trying to work our how many “nie's” to put in a Afrikaans sentence and where to put them.

    What’s the last nie for. Do you always have matching pairs.
    Ek weet nie nie Not sure how this originated. The Dutch don't use a matching 'nie'.


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    Those who complain should remember that most of the South African English words are actually not real English.



    The real problem is with Afrikaans. Try to find one who speaks pure Afrikaans 3 sentences.
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    I think the Chinese showed the world that you do not need Shakespearian English and the ability to recide the Oxford dictionary from cognitive memory to build one of the biggest economies in the world. Buy their products and read the instructions/user manuals, it makes for good humour.

    Like one of my superiors at work once said to me “Your English is as good as your education”. My response was “Your English is as good as the person reading it”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaitshi Gubib View Post
    ..... you're
    Uhhhmmm - should be "you are" or shortened version :"you're".
    Your = something belonging to or related to you.
    "You are" or "you're" refers more to an action ..... something like that.

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    It would be reasonable to assume that when not sure of a spelling that one would revert to the phonetic expression as the guide. "wood of" is an example. So peeple would be more correct to people (pee ple) if Leo is (lee oh), then people should be pee oh ple?? This is why some get confused.

    Their is a reluctance to read some of the classics, lovingly written by wordsmiths. Reading in my opinion would remedy many of the problems in the written word.

    While grammar and structure are certainly a requirement, the primary reason, as stated, for the spoken and written word is communication. People who use correct grammar, vocabulary and punctuation, be it in the written or spoken format, are simply more effective communicators. It is they who make the music, the notes are one component but it is also the pauses between the notes that gives the meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post

    What’s the last nie for..
    The last 'nie' comes at the end of the sentence.

    'Ons gaan die naweek kamp' --> 'Ons gaan nie die naweek kamp nie.'

    But then......

    'Jy moet in die straat speel' --> 'Jy moenie in die straat speel nie'

    Of so iets, ek praat plat Vrystaat Afrikaans.

    What gets me in Afrikaans is people that mixes 'breek' and 'breuk' up. Eish wêna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    The last 'nie' comes at the end of the sentence.

    'Ons gaan die naweek kamp' --> 'Ons gaan nie die naweek kamp nie.'

    But then......

    'Jy moet in die straat speel' --> 'Jy moenie in die straat speel nie'

    Of so iets, ek praat plat Vrystaat Afrikaans.

    What gets me in Afrikaans is people that mixes 'breek' and 'breuk' up. Eish wêna.
    Is there a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    Too

    Unless your also being a Easter bunny
    You're...

    and...

    an....

    Edit: I see you were already corrected. Anyways.
    Last edited by iandvl; 2018/07/14 at 01:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    You're...

    and...

    an....

    Edit: I see you were already corrected. Anyways.
    But those were on done on purpose, as one does when your planting easter eggs for grammar Nazis, so there I wasn't wrong, or was I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Owch.

    There’s nothing more difficult for an Engelsman than trying to work our how many “nie's” to put in a Afrikaans sentence and where to put them.

    What’s the last nie for. Do you always have matching pairs.
    Because us boerkies are so thick skulled you have to tell us twice that doing something bad is a bad idea

    The double negative has irked me since school days, especially since everything will still make sense if you drop the second "nie".

    Here's some ideas about where it comes from:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika...ouble_negative
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    Because us boerkies are so thick skulled you have to tell us twice that doing something bad is a bad idea

    The double negative has irked me since school days, especially since everything will still make sense if you drop the second "nie".

    Here's some ideas about where it comes from:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrika...ouble_negative
    Which led me to this gem:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweebu...geskietfontein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Leigh View Post
    It would be reasonable to assume that when not sure of a spelling that one would revert to the phonetic expression as the guide. "wood of" is an example. So peeple would be more correct to people (pee ple) if Leo is (lee oh), then people should be pee oh ple?? This is why some get confused.

    Their is a reluctance to read some of the classics, lovingly written by wordsmiths. Reading in my opinion would remedy many of the problems in the written word.

    While grammar and structure are certainly a requirement, the primary reason, as stated, for the spoken and written word is communication. People who use correct grammar, vocabulary and punctuation, be it in the written or spoken format, are simply more effective communicators. It is they who make the music, the notes are one component but it is also the pauses between the notes that gives the meaning.
    Excellent post.

    Indeed, people struggle to write because they don't read.

    Oh and thanks for the easter egg, I'll leave it for someone else
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    Eish, once you had to learn Greek everything else is chicken feed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    There’s nothing more difficult for an Engelsman than trying to work our how many “nie's” to put in a Afrikaans sentence and where to put them.
    Daardie hele dubbelnegatief kwessie en die res van die Afrikaanse taalreels het my baie keer kopseer op skool gegee.
    One het `n Onnie gehad, ene Mnr. Streso, en hy het sommer Die Taal in ons ingebliksem, nietemin toe ons eendag die Taalmonument bespreek het, en to steek Grapjas sy hand in die lug, en ewe stroopsoet vra hy...
    "Maar, meneer, meneer sê dat Afrikaans is `n lewendige taal, maar, op `n berg buitekant Paarl staan daar `n Taalmonument? Monumente is mos vir dooie goed..."

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    Thank heavens I was brought up speaking English, and writing it. Consider these nightmares of pronunciation: bomb, comb, tomb (why the 'b' anyhow?) and through,though, cough, and tough. Bilksem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jembo View Post
    Thank heavens I was brought up speaking English, and writing it. Consider these nightmares of pronunciation: bomb, comb, tomb (why the 'b' anyhow?) and through,though, cough, and tough. Bilksem!
    Try this for a headache...
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