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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatiesza View Post
    Ok accepting that what is said is correct, my question is does the Sno Master now operate in temps above 35 degC. My personal experience on a trip to the Kalahari with a son master is that it stopped working totally once the temp was above that. Once back on high veld in lower temps started working 100% again. I now have 2 Dometics, problem solved

    You sure it had sufficient ventilation, etc? We all can make that mistake.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatiesza View Post
    Ok accepting that what is said is correct, my question is does the Sno Master now operate in temps above 35 degC.
    I have 2
    1 60 L single
    1 66 L double

    Used both in ambient above 44deg...

    Mine have ample ventilation

    No issues
    In fact the 66 L double is really a magnificent product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    I have 2
    1 60 L single
    1 66 L double

    Used both in ambient above 44deg...

    Mine have ample ventilation

    No issues
    In fact the 66 L double is really a magnificent product.
    That 66l definitely caught my eye, too, must say............
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    Lets just say that a "bad" product won't survive in the (4x4) community.
    So what has influenced my decision, was the low profile models (65l and 90l) offered by Snomaster - they both fit underneath a tonneua cover - and therefor can be used with or without a canopy. Highly flexible application.

    Oh yes, and the very special price during Black Friday (and on other occasions as well during the year)
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    Lets just say that a "bad" product won't survive in the (4x4) community.
    So what has influenced my decision, was the low profile models (65l and 90l) offered by Snomaster - they both fit underneath a tonneua cover - and therefor can be used with or without a canopy. Highly flexible application.

    Oh yes, and the very special price during Black Friday (and on other occasions as well during the year)
    That's no lie, I am definitely not going to vouch for or put my name on a dodgy product but in this case zi know the directors on a personal level and have seen how these units work under the skin so to say, I have also personally experienced the back up and the extent of the abuse that the fridges can take.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheatiesza View Post
    Ok accepting that what is said is correct, my question is does the Sno Master now operate in temps above 35 degC. My personal experience on a trip to the Kalahari with a son master is that it stopped working totally once the temp was above that. Once back on high veld in lower temps started working 100% again. I now have 2 Dometics, problem solved
    I had a 90L snomaster that kept the beers cold in close to 50 deg in kgalagadi. Was too big to fit my trailer so sold it to a friend and bought a 90L national Luna. I did receive good service from SM when it needed a repair after a lightning strike while camping, but it definitely kept everything freezing cold.
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    Glad Snomaster givers excellent service and after sales backup.

    I could not find the BD/C-60 Compressor Data sheet on the internet: The (Danfoss) BD compressor speed is regulated by an inline resistor on the Control Box. The current vs speed changes subject to the selected resistance installed. Refrigeration works on the Carnot/Thermodynamic Cycle viz you need to pump the heat out to atmosphere. Slower compressor run speed means compressor will run longer to do the job. (refrigerant circulates slower to absorb heat on the Evaporator and to dissipate on the Condenser). Thermodynamic law! (same as Newton - cannot dodge it!)

    So watch out when current draw is stated.

    PS: Insulation, fans, etc helps with/dictates efficiency.

    PPS: I installed an additional 12V bearing Fan (not sleeved) to move/blow the heat/warm air away from the freezer in 1998 --> 2 fans 90 degrees: one blows in and other out over the Condenser. (eliminates circulation of the hot air due to back of Bakkie is packed full!). Freezer is still going.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    I have 2
    1 60 L single
    1 66 L double

    Used both in ambient above 44deg...

    Mine have ample ventilation

    No issues
    In fact the 66 L double is really a magnificent product.
    I have been using a 60L single now for a couple of years and I am very satisfied.

    The fridge operated flawlessly for a week with temps over 40ļ, some days it went up to 45ļ, so I disagree with some of the statements made above.

    Coming from a 40L Engel I found the Snomaster has better insulation and draws less power.

    The lower price and the fact that the fridge came with baskets, a cover and a remote control at no extra cost makes this a very attractive buy!

    When a fridge stops working its hardly ever the compressor but usually something else.

    80% of the time its either a battery or power supply issue.

    I spoke to a couple of technicians for various manufactures and they all agree that modern compressors are very robust and it's usually the electronic supporting it that goes wrong. That's way they will put a 5 to 10 year guarantees on compressors.

    PS. I am looking at the 66l double
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    I have never owned a SM but if the new ones are as good as they sound, I would seriously consider one, especially if the power saving claim is true. I had a NL weekender for 3 years and since 2010, I have the single lid NL 90L twin. Not one issue in the last 9 years with the 90L.

    The one thing that I picked up while reading various threads on SM and NL is that some SM had issues with the piping used in the units. Do they still use steel pipes or have they moved over to copper like NL? If a pipe in a fridge picks up a leak due to corrosion, it is game over for that unit in terms of a viable repair. It does seem as if SM has come a long way.

    Being out in the bundus often, I prefer to have a reliable unit and have no desire to test anybody's after sales service...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kooskop View Post
    I have never owned a SM but if the new ones are as good as they sound, I would seriously consider one, especially if the power saving claim is true. I had a NL weekender for 3 years and since 2010, I have the single lid NL 90L twin. Not one issue in the last 9 years with the 90L.

    The one thing that I picked up while reading various threads on SM and NL is that some SM had issues with the piping used in the units. Do they still use steel pipes or have they moved over to copper like NL? If a pipe in a fridge picks up a leak due to corrosion, it is game over for that unit in terms of a viable repair. It does seem as if SM has come a long way.

    Being out in the bundus often, I prefer to have a reliable unit and have no desire to test anybody's after sales service...
    All Snomaster fridges have copper pipes. Its been like that for a number of years now.

    I like that Snomaster keeps on innovating and optimizing their products.

    They seem to listen to their clients, they no even offer their fridges with a BH plug!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    You sure it had sufficient ventilation, etc? We all can make that mistake.
    That is a very important item
    Kind of the same as what some people do with certain Microwave cabinets
    They leave no space where the unit is made to get rid of its heat and they then do not understand why the units do not work as they should
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    These sections needs proper clean access to airflow
    And preferably separated from each other because you do not want to short cycle the heated air
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    I like that bottle opener on the side....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kooskop View Post
    I like that bottle opener on the side....
    I USED the bottle opener on the side.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kooskop View Post
    I like that bottle opener on the side....
    It is meant to be used as a gauge - if a beer bottle fits in, then there is sufficient room for ventilation



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    You can actually mount the opener on the front or side

    So I fitted 2....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    You can actually mount the opener on the front or side

    So I fitted 2....

    Sufficient ventilation - side and front

    Problem solved



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    Donít know where the stats come from but my first Snomaster I bought drew 5.7 and they replaced it and that drew 4.7. No one from Snomaster could give me real data so in the end they gave me my money back. It killed my deep cycle battery 4 times that I asked them for a new battery.

    This was the 40L dual combo

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    RESISTOR vs CURRENT vs SPEED as stated higher up: Possibility you had too much voltage drop (thin wires) which caused a 5,7 Amp draw? (All boils down to wattage)

    PS: Some Manufactures select in between Resistor sizes.......

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    We procured a 70L dual SnoMaster many years ago due to price.

    It served us well over many years and many kms off road.
    Got dropped 3 times from the bakkie and then started to give some issues.
    One compartment only freezed down to -18C, the other one worked fine.
    So off to SnoMaster, they had a look and was willing to repair but would not give warrantee on the repairs, the insides was all loose and it would break down again.
    The 70L was dented, scratched and what ever, one door was bent and you had to push it down to get it closed.

    So offered me a 66 Dual at R8k which we gladly accepted.
    Just to add we have a 40L SnoMaster that now travel in the BL Kewer and no issue after a few years
    The 66L travels in the bakkie every day so hopefully we can get a 10 year life span out of them.

    We are careful not to drop one again, the reason they stay where they are.
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