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    This seemed to be the best place for this post, so here goes:

    I want to upgrade my home workshop (read: tiny little corner of what the estate agent called a "tandem" garage).
    I have this idealistic idea in my head that I want to buy basic tools and then the materials to build whatever else I need/want.

    Problem is, I keep thinking around in circles - I can't figure out what the best combination of tools and materials will be for my (say R5k) budget. This is where I hope some of the more experienced members of this wonderful forum will come to my assistance!

    For starters, my current "setup" is as follows:

    Workbench - consists of a piece of 16mm MDF across two halves of a shelving system (almost like this:
    https://www.builders.co.za/Shelving-...00000000034075
    but the vertical members are split in half horizontally - leaving me with two waist-high sets of shelves)

    Hand Tools - a small variety of standard tools.  Nothing expensive or specialised.

    Power(ed) tools - I have a cordless and a couple of corded hand drills, jigsaw, a small angle grinder and a rotary (off-brand Dremel) tool. Also a small (200A) inverter welding machine.

    I also have a small (100mm) bench vice precariously mounted on a piece of MDF clamped to the current workbench.

    The eventual idea is to have a fairly capable home workshop with metal- and woodworking capabilities, but for a start, I was thinking of starting off by building a proper workbench.  Something with a (hopefully sturdy) 2x4" frame with a plywood (maybe 2off layers, stacked) top.

    The workbench would necessitate (or, to be honest, mostly justify) the purchase of:
    Circular saw (for the cutting)
    Japanese hand saw (ditto)
    Chisels (for cleaning up the cuts - I'm planning on using lap joints)
    Planes - small block plus larger jack (these are a stretch, I think...)
    Sander (not sure if belt or orbital would be better)
    Proper brad point drill bits and a countersink bit

    Other things I would (for a start) like to add to the workshop, but can't justify for building a table:
    Drill press
    Bench grinder
    Compressor (both for driving tools and painting)
    Table saw (space is going to big the big issue on this one...)
    Various other small items - centrepunch, dividers for marking, more clamps (always)

    Now for the questions:
    1. Am I stupid for wanting to pull this off with my budget?
    2. Is there anything I'm missing / you would do different?
    3. Is there (apart from Builder's Warehouse) somewhere where I can go to get all of the above (tools, consumables and materials) without ripping too big of a hole in my pocket, but not having to worry about quality?

    Now I know that despite trying to be clear in all of the above, my questions are very vague. Still - I would appreciate any input I can get at this stage regarding tool brands, types, specs etc...

    If you've read all this: thank you for your patience!

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    Something like this?

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    GreigD,

    Apart from the quantity (I have maybe a 3rd of the tools) and organisation (my tools live in 4 "Big Jim" plastic toolboxes) that looks a lot like my little corner of heaven!

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    If you want to get a compressor to run air tools you must get something that will supply the required flow for the tools.
    I have moved over to air tools for a lot of my stuff and find it very convenient and cost effective. It did require upgrading my compressor from the one I used for spray painting only as it didn't have the necessary flow. I bought vertical tank 115L 3Hp model from Ardendorff that works well. If you are going to get air tools look at what is available before buying any normal electrical power tools.
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    Thanks, Paul#25.

    The compressor is a "one day when I'm all growed up" list-item. But I'll definitely keep in mind to match the compressor to the tools!

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    Look on bid-or-buy in their antique tools category for hand tools.
    I've picked up a couple of hand planes there.

    I've built myself a nice workbench from second hand pallet wood (beams).

    Have a search for Sting wood in Pretoria West.
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    You left a “0” off your budget.
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    Rocketscientist,
    Thanks for the tips. I'll klap-'n-google right away!

    Fluffy,
    If only I could tack a couple of zeros onto my budget... I can already see a purpose built workshop, separate bays for wood and metal, lathe, milling machine, laser-cutter, sawstop table saw, etc etc...

    I'm just trying to get a foot in the door of what could easily be a hobby that bankrupts me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
    Rocketscientist,
    Thanks for the tips. I'll klap-'n-google right away!

    Fluffy,
    If only I could tack a couple of zeros onto my budget... I can already see a purpose built workshop, separate bays for wood and metal, lathe, milling machine, laser-cutter, sawstop table saw, etc etc...

    I'm just trying to get a foot in the door of what could easily be a hobby that bankrupts me!
    You can actually do it rather cheap if you do it slowly.

    I have always been a proponent of buying the very best you can, but in the last two years I have been buying a lot of stuff from Addendorfs. (Spelling). I still feel that way about often used power tools, and small tools.

    It would be nice to see a list of peoples inventory without it becoming a brag list. I know for instance that nobody has a better selection of Angle Grinders than Henk.And I have seen pic's of Apocalypse's tool's, gasp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
    I'm just trying to get a foot in the door of what could easily be a hobby that bankrupts me!
    Do you know this guy. Nuno Bettencourt.

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    Fluffy,

    I very nearly included an inventory of my current tools in the original post. But, as it is, it's already very long. (so many tool jokes waiting to be made here...)

    The idea was basically to ask: If you guys (being the experienced DIY'ers that you are...) had to start a shop from scratch, what would you spend the first R5k on - keeping in mind the "build it yourself as you need it" mentality. Within reason, of course - not all of us are Chris from Clickspring, This old Tony or AvE...

    I am not familiar with Nuno Bettencourt. I have to confess that I have very much neglected my own Washburn (D10-CE) very badly. Don't get me wrong - she's safe and sound in her case! I just have not had regular occasion to enjoy her talents (I have none) in a long time.

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    I would start with 2 of the 3 below

    https://www.adendorff.co.za/product/...k-table-bench/

    https://www.adendorff.co.za/product/...toolbox-tools/

    https://www.adendorff.co.za/product/...toolbox-tools/

    Then shop around some pawn shops for loose tools. There is one in Wierdapark that is a treasure trove.
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    Bluefin06,

    Now THAT's the kind of advice I was after! Thanks!

    I've got the contents of those toolboxes pretty much covered already and the workbench is going to be my first official project - but I appreciate the effort! The workbench you linked to has some ideas that I want to incorporate into my own - the top shelf and the drawers seem handy! I recon mounting a LED lightstrip under that shelf isn't a bad idea either...

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    My advice is to buy tools as you actually need it. There are of course some basic tools that you will always use e.g. pliers, screwdrivers etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreigD View Post
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    Something like this?
    This is ridiculous. Far to organized. That would drive me crazy. Also you can see the floor.Far too neat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
    ................. and the workbench is going to be my first official project ........
    If you are going to do welding as well, make it a steel welding table/work bench.
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    Plaasbakkie,

    Your advice makes sense - it's pretty much what I've been doing up till now. I just have not needed anything beyond standard hand tools (like the pliers and screwdrivers you mention).

    I figured it was time to expand a little - but can't figure out what would make more sense to purchase tool-wise.

    KobusDJ,

    The steel welding table also makes sense. Problem is, it'll be used for more than just welding. I guess I COULD make a separate wooden top for it so as not to further anger the pixies when toying with electrickery projects, but I prefer the idea of a wooden top. Maybe a steel frame (angles or tubes) with a plywood top mounted onto it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
    Plaasbakkie,

    Your advice makes sense - it's pretty much what I've been doing up till now. I just have not needed anything beyond standard hand tools (like the pliers and screwdrivers you mention).

    I figured it was time to expand a little - but can't figure out what would make more sense to purchase tool-wise.

    KobusDJ,

    The steel welding table also makes sense. Problem is, it'll be used for more than just welding. I guess I COULD make a separate wooden top for it so as not to further anger the pixies when toying with electrickery projects, but I prefer the idea of a wooden top. Maybe a steel frame (angles or tubes) with a plywood top mounted onto it?
    I got a nice steel table from my FIL. Sturdy with wheels on one side. 75mm diamater pipe legs and a steel shutter for the table with a 200mm bench vice fitted on the right hand corner. It works very well as you can move it around and is very stable. I also strap my thickness planer to it when it's time to smooth out some wood.
    I bought an old wet&dry vac and am currently converting it to a shop cyclone vac. I like doing some diy homebuilt stuff but time is also limited.
    I find alot of inspiration also from Matthias Wandel's Youtube channel.
    The machines he has designed and built from wood are quite amazing. Multi-purpose workbenches, jigs, band saws, table saws, home made lathe. The guy is quite industrious.
    http://woodgears.ca/
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    Karoo Klong,

    I am familiar with Matthias' videos. The guy is like MacGuyver - but with wood!

    Izzy Swan is another quite inventive guy when it comes to the old dead tree carcasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Washburn View Post
    Karoo Klong,

    I am familiar with Matthias' videos. The guy is like MacGuyver - but with wood!

    Izzy Swan is another quite inventive guy when it comes to the old dead tree carcasses.
    Yup. I neglected to mention Izzy Swan also. Two of the best Youtubers in that field for sure.

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