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    Default Re: Isuzu mu-X takes aim at fast-growing SUV segment

    Is the jack high enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Up to a point yes. In fact there are quite a few conditions where Traction Control is actually superior to difflock.

    But when the going gets really tough you still need a difflock. However, maybe for those conditions you shouldn't be using a hardcore 4x4 or a truck, not a luxury SUV.
    Are we then saying that the other SUV's that do have a diff lock and TC systems would be classified as hardcore 4x4's?

    Land rover always brags that most of their vehicles will never see dirt road or proper off road conditions but they need to ensure that if they do the consumer has the best off road capabilities in his or her luxury off road vehicle.

    Also would this mean that the Isuzu pickup would be more capable off road than this SUV now?

    I know they trying to cater for the market who most will never go off road but I wonder why then they are the one of the only big brand SUV's without a diff lock and will this really stop most buyers from considering the Isuzu?
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    Price is way off but even worse is that we got a second rate engine when compared to the MUx in Australia (380nm vs 430 over there). Now I will just have to keep my Trailblazer that seem to be a better all rounder compared to this.
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    Default Re: Isuzu mu-X takes aim at fast-growing SUV segment

    You don't need rear diff lock if it has decent TC.

    as Fluffy said:

    " maybe for those conditions you should be using a hardcore 4x4 or a truck, not a luxury SUV."
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    My last few Pajeros only had TC, and it was more than enough for me. The Isuzu had RDL, but it took so long to engage that it wasn't really all that cool, and it didn't have TC.

    My current Chevy runs with only TC. I put it in a ditch the other day. My buddy throught this is it, let's hope there is cell reception nearby. I simply drove out of the ditch, in reverse. The TC did its thing faultlessly.

    I'm not saying RDL is wrong, just that unless you are running serious obstacles for fun, then you'll be OK.

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    Default Re: Isuzu mu-X takes aim at fast-growing SUV segment

    Can that fish finder fold down?? Jeepers, hope so!!

    Only Auto??

    Not bad looking in the flesh, I actually saw one in town (EC Registered) today.

    I like the Sooz brand, but I just do'nt see this being a huge headache for Ford or Toyota, not at that price and with those figures (and that fish finder)
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    Way out of my price range...but I do like the look of it. I reckon even at that price, it's gonna sell better than the TB, just because of the badge. Which I'm assuming is Isuzu's primary short-term goal? Hope they sell MANY, then perhaps I'll be able to buy a secondhand one 5/6 years from now.

    The diff-lock issue is a non-starter for me at this stage. Don't drive my vehicles in places where it's needed. As Fluffy states above, TC will do for where I use my vehicles. Yes, yes, it would've been a nice thing to have as standard, but for many people (like me), at the moment, it's not a deal-breaker.

    Regarding the engine (and I'm sure I'm going to be shot for this) but as someone else on the forum has stated in a different thread, Isuzu make some of the most reliable diesels out there...not dissing any other brands here by the way, but I'll happily live with slightly less power and slightly more noise if I get a more reliable product.

    But that's just me and my opinion. Horses for courses I guess.

    Saw a few of them over the last few weeks around here. Some of the original pics were taken around JBay, like the one below. Taken on the gravel road next to Gamtoosrivier. You can see the N2 in the background, direction CT.

    Have to say that in the flesh it looks even better than on the pictures...But then again, I also really like the look of the Ford...

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    Anyone picked up that they say fully independent suspension while in fact the rear is 5-link coil sprung live axle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike N View Post
    Anyone picked up that they say fully independent suspension while in fact the rear is 5-link coil sprung live axle?
    Not until you mentioned it.

    https://practicalmotoring.com.au/car...u-x-ls-u-auto/

    The MU-X is a medium-size seven-seat 4◊4 wagon that shares the same platform as Isuzuís D-Max ute. As is traditional for the class, the MU-X wagon has a shorter wheelbase than its utility sibling, and the D-Maxís live-axle leaf-spring rear-end has been discarded in favour of a live-axle coil-spring arrangement in the MU-X wagon. Both the ute and wagon share the same independent coil-spring front suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    One has to look at the market. How many of these vehicles will ever go off-road, and further, when they do go off-road, how many will tackle a route where TC is not good enough. Manufacturers do vehicles for the largest market segment, not the smallest "specialist" segment.
    But the thing is, the competitors have it. That alone will sway many, whether they will ever use it or not.

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    The isuzu mu-x is too expensive when compared to the likes of everest and fortuner.

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    The guys who say the lack of diff lock is a deal breaker but dont see the tiny fuel tank as a problem.are the type of guys who dont need diff lock...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Manny View Post
    The guys who say the lack of diff lock is a deal breaker but dont see the tiny fuel tank as a problem.are the type of guys who dont need diff lock...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Manny View Post
    The guys who say the lack of diff lock is a deal breaker but dont see the tiny fuel tank as a problem.are the type of guys who dont need diff lock...
    65L.....
    That is small.
    My Chevy has a wopping 76L tank.
    Is there really a different tank size between the two, or are we dealing with yet another data error in the press?

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    Letís all just take a moment and think about the Mux... Is what Isuzu should have said.

    Agriculture like unrefined engine. I like it and feel sorry for the ones that complain about a diesel being unrefined.

    380Nm - Not going to do it for a lot. I donít mind but that will not draw buyers from other brands. That power figures makes it competition to the 2.4 Fortuner and 2.2 Everest. Not the 2.8 and 3.2 like the price suggest.

    Price - You will find a lot of reading material on pricing models, price placement etc. Seems like no one at Isuzu read one of those.

    Diff-lock or lack of it. Should have had it especially on a ladder chassis bakkie based Suv. If it was a softroader it would make sense.

    65l tank. Yes in Japan it is more than sufficient. Not there yet for us.

    I like the interior from the pics Iíve seen thus far.

    Independent suspension front and back makes sense if you think about what it will be used for mostly. Economically does not make sense to cater for what only 5% of customers truly need. Might have contradicted myself here on my above statement on diff lock.

    I think we will see a slight upgrade soon. Perhaps by November. Perhaps the 420Nm plant as in Aus.

    I think the product is good and a decent offering. Just something wrong with the price in my opinion. Need to bring them down by about 7.5% to make it a value offering.

    I will have a look at one at Nampo for the first time inside and out. Will see whats the verdict on the looks then.
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    Why do all of the south african articles say it has independent rear suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik. View Post
    Why do all of the South African articles say it has independent rear suspension?
    Because it doesn't have rear Leaf Springs but rather Rear multi-link rear coil suspension w/ gas filled shock absorbers & stabiliser bar.
    To them this means Ūndependant'...

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    Okay my verdict? I like it and I want it.

    At 130kw/380Nm it is by no means competing with anyone on the power segment
    Independent suspension and no diff-lock also a bit of a surprised
    Isuzu SA's pricing strategy does not make sense, should cut the price by at least 5 - 7.5% to be competitive.

    BUT!
    The power is enough for me
    Independent suspension and no diff-lock caters for 98% of my usage so this would be fine
    Pricing - the reason I wont buy it yet as i can simply not afford it . That being said there were a lot of interest and I spoke to a couple of guys on the stand who will be ordering some. Kimberley Isuzu already sold 12. So I think they will sell better than the Trailblazer due to the Isuzu badge ( I still think the Trailblazer is a great vehicle).
    The interior is typical Isuzu. Nothing wow but nothing wrong with it. I like the layout. Last row seats are for kids and small adults. I struggled to fit my 6'2" body in there. Middle row has a lot of room.
    I think it looks great from the outside. Really better in real life than in the images released thus far.
    Almost forgot to mention that the engine sounds agriculture and a bit unrefined. Just the way I like it (It is a diesel ffs).

    No talks of any spec changes yet. 3.0L 430Nm version from Aus will not reach us until 10ppm diesel is available accross the country. Same goes for the 1.9L engine they have in Europe and South America. So the 4x4 and 4x2 3.0 we see now will be what is available.

    Still, I think come the latter part of 2019, there might be one parked in my driveway (Swambo platkar). Perhaps a demo or second hand one with less that 50'000km on the ODO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redman View Post
    Independent suspension
    It has a solid rear axle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik. View Post
    It has a solid rear axle
    Yes apologies. Meant to say the 5 link coil suspension at the back. This setup did not impress me that much on the axle twister on the demo track but should make for great comfort on road where it will be driven 98% of the time.


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