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    Good day people, I am new to the community and I know there are already new vehicle threads. However I cannot find a budget one focused on Weekend warriors, people who live in the city and just want to get out in the weekend. But still want to do some do short trips to Namibia or Lesotho and don't want to worry about bad road and a bit of 4x4.


    I have a budget of below R 250 K and want to do casual 4x4, so far my options are the Suzuki Jimny or the Mahindra scorpio both second hand.


    I don't know much about the Mahindra market in SA particularly Gauteng, Is it a good buy ? are they reliable ?

    The Suzuki market has Boomed lately especially the Jimny.

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    Have you actually sat in a Jimny?

    Then once you are in the Jimny, consider where you will put the camping stuff, cooler box, luggage, food, etc.

    Somebody raised this the other day: we need a short sticky questionnaire for first time buyers.

    - Price
    - Fuel type
    - Number of passengers
    - Expected usage
    - Daily drive or not
    - Packing space required
    - Roof rack or not
    etc

    But here is my advice:

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...20910411128709

    R170k means you have R80k for trips.
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    You can get a brand new Mahindra Thar, that's LOTS of fun! Alternatively, you can get a decent older (but not old, and with lowish mileage) SUV or double cab 4x4 for R250K, for example previous Everest, Pajero, Pajero Sport, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Wrangler or Prado; or Hilux, Isuzu, Navara, Ranger, etc. Don't forget about capable soft roaders like Freelander 2, Subaru, Nissan X-Trail and Mitsubishi Outlander, if rocky 4x4-ing is not your thing.
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    I love the Patrols I have seen epic builds for them, but for every day use in the city aren't you looking at 7km per liter ?

    And I know the Jimny is small, but at least its bigger that what I have now, which is Toyota Etios and we have done camping trips to Hogsback in Easter Cape with it, so doing it in the jimney should be much better with back seats folded flat you get 813 liters boots space ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    I love the Patrols I have seen epic builds for them, but for every day use in the city aren't you looking at 7km per liter ?

    And I know the Jimny is small, but at least its bigger that what I have now, which is Toyota Etios and we have done camping trips to Hogsback in Easter Cape with it, so doing it in the jimney should be much better with back seats folded flat you get 813 liters boots space ?
    Bwahahahah!!! Try 4 km/l with a 4.8 Patrol in the city! Sure the Jimny is great, but for longer camping trips a larger SUV/double cab is just so much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    I love the Patrols I have seen epic builds for them, but for every day use in the city aren't you looking at 7km per liter ?

    And I know the Jimny is small, but at least its bigger that what I have now, which is Toyota Etios and we have done camping trips to Hogsback in Easter Cape with it, so doing it in the jimney should be much better with back seats folded flat you get 813 liters boots space ?
    so we're back to the questionnaire again:

    - Price : Under R250k
    - Fuel type:
    - Number of passengers
    - Expected usage: overlanding no trails
    - Daily drive or not: yes
    - Packing space required:
    - Roof rack or not:
    etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    so we're back to the questionnaire again:

    - Price : Under R250k
    - Fuel type:
    - Number of passengers
    - Expected usage: overlanding no trails
    - Daily drive or not: yes
    - Packing space required:
    - Roof rack or not:
    etc

    - Price : Under R250k
    - Fuel type: Petrol
    - Number of passengers: 2
    - Expected usage: casual trails and some camping in Lesotho.
    - Daily drive or not: yes
    - Packing space required: Front Runner roof rack and back seats folded flat.
    - Roof rack or not: Front Runner roof rack.

    The Mahindra Socrpio Pickup is still a contender with its great traction control and 7.9/100km fuel consumption? and there is loads of packing space.


    This is what I am aiming at, maybe not a 1.8 conversion yet but some mods to the engine.
    Ronny Dahl Modified.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBT1EGDEi0A
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    The Sahindra Socrpio Pickup is still a contender with its great traction control and 7.9/100km fuel consumption? and there is loads of packing space.
    Yes, I'd go for that


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    This is what I am aiming at, maybe not a 1.8 conversion yet but some mods to the engine.
    Ronny Dahl Modified.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBT1EGDEi0A
    that's a toy, not a daily drive
    there is R100k+ of mods on that Suzuki

    I suppose you can buy a R150k Jimny and go ape if you want...........

    But then I'd start with a Vitara.

    http://calmini.com/model.php?b=2&m=7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    I don't know much about the Mahindra market in SA particularly Gauteng, Is it a good buy ? are they reliable ?
    Bought a second hand one,
    No issues .


    Support wise, I havent tested it yet, But from what i have read online there is pretty decent support available. Just need to check on it.
    I would recommend one, Its got around the same fuel economy as the Jimny(Co worker had one) but offers alot more space to pack

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Have you actually sat in a Jimny?

    Then once you are in the Jimny, consider where you will put the camping stuff, cooler box, luggage, food, etc.

    Somebody raised this the other day: we need a short sticky questionnaire for first time buyers.

    - Price
    - Fuel type
    - Number of passengers
    - Expected usage
    - Daily drive or not
    - Packing space required
    - Roof rack or not
    etc

    But here is my advice:

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...20910411128709

    R170k means you have R80k for trips.
    thank you.
    I raised it.

    no help recommending a softroader for somebody that needs low range.
    or a Jimny for somebody with 17 kids.

    diesel or petrol?
    fuel consumption?
    price?
    mileage?
    space?
    low range required?
    other must haves?
    budget?

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    New or second hand?

    You can get decent Suzuki GV's for around your price.

    Hell, I sold my 2013 Trailblazer for R250k with 90000km on the clock.

    Perhaps your BEST bet might be a secondhand SWB Pajero DID (or if you are stuck on petrol then get the Petrol one).

    For half your price you could consider a nice second hand Terios. Cheap and easy to maintain.

    What I am trying to say is that your needs and price range has a massive offering.

    If it was me I'd look for a nice SWB Pajero. Suzuki GV as a second option.

    (I have not owned one of these but by large their owners are very happy with them).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack300 View Post
    Good day people, I am new to the community and I know there are already new vehicle threads. However I cannot find a budget one focused on Weekend warriors, people who live in the city and just want to get out in the weekend. But still want to do some do short trips to Namibia or Lesotho and don't want to worry about bad road and a bit of 4x4.


    I have a budget of below R 250 K and want to do casual 4x4, so far my options are the Suzuki Jimny or the Mahindra scorpio both second hand.


    I don't know much about the Mahindra market in SA particularly Gauteng, Is it a good buy ? are they reliable ?

    The Suzuki market has Boomed lately especially the Jimny.
    Hey Jack; Ive enjoyed a 2006 Daihatsu Terios (100% Toyota made, owned and designed on RAV4 platform) for 10 years and for me it was the best, most economical and enjoyable 4x4 Ive had in over 30 years. Sadly after 200,000km trouble free I traded it in on a new car for the wife. The only improvement I could have wished for was a low range gear, but it went pretty much 90% where big and heavy 4x4s go, including deep sand in Sossusvlei, most of Botswana (left out Moremi & Savuti) and all over Namibia at least 5 times plus a road trip to Kenya too. Total expenditure in 10 years less than R10K including new tyres and services. Under R100K you have a choice of dozens of Terios available; why spend R250k when you can use the rest for fun? I subsequently bought a 1999 Kia Sportage with low range which is my new adventure vehicle and goes pretty much anywhere any other 4x4 goes (at Melkbos 4x4 this past Saturday I had 6 guys with Amaroks and Discos swooning over my Sportage and how easily it sailed through the sand and over the obstacles without engine screaming like their vehicles. Cost: R55K and spent another R15K new on AVM front wheel hubs, 5 Firestone 215/80-5 AT tyres and few other repairs and replacements. Mods: lifted 3 and AVM manual locking front hubs.
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    Nissan np300 d/c 4x4?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeriosGuy View Post
    Total expenditure in 10 years less than R10K including new tyres and services.
    Are you sure less than R10K including new tyres and services? I love my Terios (great vehicle, look at my name ), but I need to know the secret of your total expenses in 10 years. Please...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    Nissan np300 d/c 4x4?
    only available in 2.4 petrol which is an asthmatic useless pig of an engine that uses more fuel than a 4.8 straight six and delivers half the power

    If Nissan sold the YD25 diesel here they would double their bakkie sales
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    Koop n patrol/cruiser/landy/pajero as 2de voertuig, en gebruik die etios as n daily
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    N weekend warrior word 7 keer n jaar gebruik, n daily, wel, daily...
    Hoekom wil jy dit alles in dieselfde voertuig h?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    N weekend warrior word 7 keer n jaar gebruik, n daily, wel, daily...
    Hoekom wil jy dit alles in dieselfde voertuig h?
    ja wat ek ook gewonder het maar lyk my die man is nie seker wat hy gaan doen met die ding nie
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    only available in 2.4 petrol which is an asthmatic useless pig of an engine that uses more fuel than a 4.8 straight six and delivers half the power

    If Nissan sold the YD25 diesel here they would double their bakkie sales
    Agreed the 0-100 is next year and not light but they do last forever and have space. Jimnys are also slow and apparently not really light on juice.

    Nissan would do very well selling them in the diesel, just seems no one at Nissan knows when or if they will launch them.
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