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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartho View Post


    ?? If I turn my steering wheel the vehicle starts again ?
    On my Alfa, the PS is electric and functions during shut off. So this could vary from car to car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Yes, all I have left is blood, snot en tranne.
    At least you have us to cheer you up

    Get well soon Fluffy!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    Ouch. Have they taken the plugs out yet? Rumor has it that it is the worst part of the whole process.
    Not that bad - NOT

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yO0DexjTDI

    Note the surgeons eco-friendly Stop/Start techniques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartho View Post
    You mean its not ??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Betta View Post
    That sums it up for 99% of my usage profile.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepiscool View Post
    That sums it up for 99% of my usage profile.
    Yeh, if you follow this guy, he specializes in controversial things.

    Are his comments relevant. Lots of good stuff wrapped in absolute BS.

    That video is absolutely no exception, but still Entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Yes, I agree with that.

    There are times when it makes no difference and it is not intrusive. Short infrequent stops eg Urban Stop streets and Yield signs. -Fine.

    There are times when it operates frequently and for very short times, makes no difference and intrusive. Stop/Go dense traffic - Switch it off.

    There are time where you stop for relatively long periods, frequently. Urban traffic with lots of Robots, and it makes a difference. - Fine.

    There are times when it almost never activates, open roads. - Fine.

    So yes there may be people for whom their cycle is not pleasant, for the greater part, I would think the feeling varies from Neutral to Positive.

    The biggest thing actually is getting over the old school mental blocks instilled in us by decades of Urban Legends and poor technologies. The classic problem of switching off a light bulb being a very similar issue.
    Best post thus far.

    Decent technology, and will become main stream.

    For now my experience is predominantly in the "not optimal" traffic pattern. And in this the VW certainly is not coping well - more due to the traffic flow than the vehicle/programming. In other traffic patterns it certainly may be much better.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF View Post
    Best post thus far.

    Decent technology, and will become main stream.

    For now my experience is predominantly in the "not optimal" traffic pattern. And in this the VW certainly is not coping well - more due to the traffic flow than the vehicle/programming. In other traffic patterns it certainly may be much better.



    Tongue in cheeck - have to wonder about the logic of "that small saving" when the DSG box is tested to the limit a few seconds later .....
    That's why I wish they'd make it user programmable, so that the driver can set it up for the type of pattern he/she encounters most frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Yeh, if you follow this guy, he specializes in controversial things.

    Are his comments relevant. Lots of good stuff wrapped in absolute BS.

    That video is absolutely no exception, but still Entertaining.
    Fluffy, I was actually referring to comments where one guys described the insignificant saving on his Mazda.

    Regarding how it could be programmed to be more effective? Would one consider to set it to only activate at five seconds of standstill? Probably not because then you'd reduce many red robot stop activations... I'm just glad that on mine I can leave it off permanently and activate it for that once in six month event of really slow traffic where I enjoy the quietness of the engine shut off during long standstills.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepiscool View Post
    Fluffy, I was actually referring to comments where one guys described the insignificant saving on his Mazda.

    Regarding how it could be programmed to be more effective? Would one consider to set it to only activate at five seconds of standstill? Probably not because then you'd reduce many red robot stop activations... I'm just glad that on mine I can leave it off permanently and activate it for that once in six month event of really slow traffic where I enjoy the quietness of the engine shut off during long standstills.
    I am sure that there is no one program that fits all. I think over time we will get adaptive algorithms that detect conditions and modify how they behave, just like modern auto boxes.

    In fact I suspect the newer systems already use adaptive techniques. The system in my Ford Tourneo is so brilliant that I have never felt the need to override it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Umm, very well put, and unfortunately probably quite true.

    Here’s the thing. I try my best to be positive about just about everything and helpful when I can.

    But one can only be a helpful old Phart some of the time. Sometimes life just beats you into submission and you retaliate by being an abrasive old Git.



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    I have it on my Smart. I do switch it off sometimes: When I know that I have to get really fast start like turning right or on a hot day where aircon has not yet managed to cool the vehicle down. Third case is in rare cases where traffic is really move one meter and stop... I do not drive tractors so it is petrol. Merc says that the battery should be changed every 4 years. I pushed it a bit longer. Battery is so big that have to take other parts out to change it. Special type and calibrated to the vehicle = not a job for everybody. Battery was a bit more expensive than those standard types but lasting 4 years...

    Even having the system on I am faster in normal traffic than manual big engine cars and I just drive like an old man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko View Post
    I have it on my Smart. I do switch it off sometimes: When I know that I have to get really fast start like turning right or on a hot day where aircon has not yet managed to cool the vehicle down. Third case is in rare cases where traffic is really move one meter and stop... I do not drive tractors so it is petrol. Merc says that the battery should be changed every 4 years. I pushed it a bit longer. Battery is so big that have to take other parts out to change it. Special type and calibrated to the vehicle = not a job for everybody. Battery was a bit more expensive than those standard types but lasting 4 years...

    Even having the system on I am faster in normal traffic than manual big engine cars and I just drive like an old man.
    Ain't that the truth! I'm often a little surprised, when I'm in the front of the queue at a light that has just turned green, at how far I am ahead of everybody else 100 m down the road. I wasn't trying to dice or impress anyone, I promise! But I do tend to try and pay attention at the lights, I guess...
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    Hate the bloody thing. I find it most irritating and have tried to develop a routine of putting it off after I start-but if I forget, I then get this frightening delay when I want to take off quickly, and invariably end up getting a 'thump' out of the dual clutch transmission. It is a real gimmick in my opinion and is most certainly not suited for hot climates like ours.

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