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    Quote Originally Posted by bredsj View Post
    What is the back overhang on your caravan (distance wheel centre to back of caravan)? The reason I am asking is that with my trailer I've learned the hard way not to overload on the overhang part. It makes the trailer work like a pendulum. Very tricky to pack a trailer.
    I will measure the distance tomorrow. Most of the dry weight are in-front of the axle. The entrance are on the side back, so its mainly passage way. I have shelves against the back to pack clothes.

    The fridge, gas bottle, 3x 100 ah batteries, bike rack will all be in-front the chassis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdt View Post
    I will measure the distance tomorrow. Most of the dry weight are in-front of the axle. The entrance are on the side back, so its mainly passage way. I have shelves against the back to pack clothes.

    The fridge, gas bottle, 3x 100 ah batteries, bike rack will all be in-front the chassis.
    Thanks. Moving things around on my trailer will be a first priority. I've got 2 batteries, they are located approximately on the axle. I will measure, if not I'll move them forward.

    But one also need look at weight on tow ball.

    And many congratulations on your build!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bredsj View Post
    Thanks. Moving things around on my trailer will be a first priority. I've got 2 batteries, they are located approximately on the axle. I will measure, if not I'll move them forward.

    But one also need look at weight on tow ball.

    And many congratulations on your build!
    Thanks. I have a 180l water tank built between the chassis at the back of the trailer. I use this for water storage and to balance the nose weight on the ball. Dry weight the nose is just over 58kg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bredsj View Post
    Thanks. Moving things around on my trailer will be a first priority. I've got 2 batteries, they are located approximately on the axle. I will measure, if not I'll move them forward.

    But one also need look at weight on tow ball.

    And many congratulations on your build!
    My 3 batteries are also located just in-front of the axle

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    Please gents. This is not the thread to discuss other caravans and builds.
    If you wish to do so, go to that thread, or start your own.
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    Had to cut 2 small pieces out, and insert new plate.
    Once you have burned a hole on the top layer of an overlap. The flux prevents the effective closing of the hole.
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    Second one in progress.

    If i were to build another caravan i would make the overlaps only 10mm.
    The current overlaps are 50 mm and cause a lot of the drawing of the steel.
    Space welding is very important and to keep the steel as cold as possible.
    Butt welds is ideal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieterk View Post
    Please gents. This is not the place to discuss other caravans and builds.
    If you wish to do so, go to that thread, or start your own.
    Thought its a 4x4 community

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdt View Post
    Thought its a 4x4 community
    You have your own build and thread. Or you may take this thread over and i will leave. Thanx
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    Piet dit lyk baie goed man

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfdt View Post
    Thought its a 4x4 community
    This is but a small part of a community.
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    This is Pieterk's caravan build thread. See the difference?
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    Default Re: Building offroad caravan.

    You're on track Piet....looking forward to more updates.

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    Great work and hats off for doing this with an arc welder and rods.
    Glad I have a mig welder for these types of projects.

    Would bending 90degree overlaps and spot welding the overlapstogether not have been easier.
    You could spot weld the complete frame together and prevent pull.

    Thereafter you could then seal seams with a sealant or do a complete weld and grind with much less pull.

    Or even have rented a mig or tig for a weekend and welded the complete frame.

    Just my 2c hope it makes sense.

    Hats off for your accomplishments

    Watching your progress and eager to see what’s next.

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    I have 3 welders and i did not want to spend money on a welder, which will be used very little later on.
    As i have mentioned before. I realised that my welding is not that good. But damn! I am now qualified as a master grinder.
    Seams and spotwelding could work if they are in the right place. Those seams are going to be in the way of the internals. i think that tig welding will do the beesnis! what bugs me the most is. I take all the care and the welded sheet of steel is perfect. You turn around to walk away with a smile of satisfaction, and you hear glunk! you look back at your handiwork, and it looks like the old road between Ponta and Maputo Drawn and bent out of proportion.

    I did not go and inspect a Bushlapa, to determine exactly how their vans are assembled. What impressed me tremendously was the weld quality of their tig welders.
    I am making do with what i have in the garage.

    The tools i have used so far:
    Angle grinder.
    Hammers.
    Tape measure.
    Pencil and black marker
    Drilling machine.
    Riveter
    Welder.
    Combination square.
    Protractor adjustable.
    G Clamps.
    Vise grips.
    File. flat and 1/2 round
    Big steel square, some places i used the 3.4.5. method.
    Lots of coffee.
    Tons of patience as i am working alone.

    My BIL notified me on Sunday that he will sponsor me 3mm alu sheets for the doors. This will add about 6k to the budget.
    He has a pile of alu sheets laying in his store that was origionaly ordered for plywood platens.
    I am busy with the final grinding outside and inside. Then lift the box and do the bottom welds. Passivate all the welds and start the assembly, cut the holes for the lights, and take it to Grobbie and Jaco, to do the bending and fitting of the doors.
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    Awesome job Pieter
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    Drawing of the panels could perhaps be minimized if you brace with allu barstock to draw the heat and aid in faster cooling.

    Might be worth your time to rent a cutting torch and warm up all the welded areas an de-stress all the joints.
    Concerned about the material cracking in future.

    PS: I am no expert just sharing thoughts of possible concerns. Perhaps things to verify in the early stages. That could prevent challenges later.

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    All the corner inserts done and rounded off.
    Lifted the box this afternoon to complete all he bottom welds and the cutouts for the mudguards.
    Bought some more welding rods this morning. Now 8kg.
    R296.07 p/kg R2368.56 in total for the welding rods.
    The 2mm welding rods work much easier than the 2.6mm
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    Box lifted and the first floorboard sika'ed to the chassis.
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    Cutouts for wheel arches done and dusted.
    Also bought a grinding disc for stainless this morning.
    Compared, the normal steel disc, feels like grinding glass.
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    I am also busy constructing a diy offroader. The build is almost complete at about 90%. I am starting the interior soon which includes items like cupboards and all other facilities. I have included some unique features. If some of you nice people would be so kind and explain to me how to post fotos I would like to show all what it looks like and give some info regarding the build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diederick View Post
    I am also busy constructing a diy offroader. The build is almost complete at about 90%. I am starting the interior soon which includes items like cupboards and all other facilities. I have included some unique features. If some of you nice people would be so kind and explain to me how to post fotos I would like to show all what it looks like and give some info regarding the build.
    Diederick, start your own build thread we would love to hear your story.

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