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    Default What is important to you in tires

    So, the last few AT tire threads have had some responses that I found pretty interesting, and showed that I am definately an outlier when it comes to what I look for in tires. So for interest I am going to ask that you list in order of importance, the 5 most important things you consider when choosing tires for your 4x4. 1 being most important, 5 the least.

    1. Sidewall strength and puncture resistance
    2. Gravel road traction
    3. Load rating
    4. Tar traction
    5. Milage

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    For me it is :

    1. Traction on tar
    2. Traction on gravel
    3. Sidewall & puncture resistance
    4. Load rating
    5. Milage


    Most I travel on tar, then on gravel, so traction on those road types are essential for me. Puncture resistance / side wall strength are very important to keep you going.
    I am torn between load rating /milage. As I m buying the tire, I should know what loads I will have in my car, so I must obtain the right tire.
    As I am buying a AT tire, I am already going for a compromisse, if I will be only on tar I'll get a HT tire wih high milage. Surly higher then the AT.

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    No need to use the same 5 items I listed, feel free to write your own list.

    This is not about who is right or wrong, it'd purely out of interest

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    I'm new to the foray into the world of off-road driving. These will be my priorities as the vehicle isn't used as a daily driver and was bought to go to the bush.
    1. Gravel road traction
    2. Sidewall strength and puncture resistance
    3. Tar traction
    4. Mileage
    5. Load rating

    For my road car the level of importance will be very different with dry and wet tar traction and handling at the top of the list.
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    Default What is important to you in tires

    1. Noise
    2. Tar traction
    3. Gravel Road Traction
    4. Appearance
    5. Load Rating / Side wall

    ... just to upset the apple-cart a bit
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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    Great topic...

    (Can I suggest that replies also list what they are currently running and how it is doing compared to their criteria, thus we all learn).

    When I had to choose tyres in the last time my considerations were:

    1. Traction on Tar
    2. Traction on Gravel
    3. Mileage

    I fitted the Pirelli Scorpion AT.

    Absolutely great on the first two, but at 40 000km they are not looking great. I also have a few snotplugs as well (they seem to love a screw lying around). So when choosing my next set (probably in around 20k km), my list will be:

    1. Traction on Tar
    2. Traction on Gravel
    3. Sidewall and puncture resistance
    4. Price
    5. Mileage

    Would be interesting to see what I decide.
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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    1. Traction on tar
    2. Braking on tar
    3. Traction on wet tar
    4. Braking on wet tar
    5. Traction on gravel

    Currently on Toyo Open Country A25. Looking to change to AT tyres soon. Trying to decide between Cooper Discoverer AT3, Dunlop Grandtrek AT3, Pirelli Scorpion ATR and Yokohama Geolandar G15. I like the General Grabber AT3 but a bit of overkill for my kind of driving predominantly on tar.

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    Side wall strength and puncture resistance.
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    Price
    Mileage
    Tread pattern

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    In order of priority:


    1. Sidewall strength and puncture resistance.
    2. Replacement availability in more remote areas.
    3. Load rating.
    4. Performance on gravel.
    5. Mileage.
    6. Noise.
    7. Performance on tar.


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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    Only puncture proof, so far to my experience only BFG comply. BFG also gives good kilos. But for a plat kar, I dont know but definitely not dunflops.
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    1. Tar traction and breaking
    2. Gravel road
    3. Puncture resistance
    4. Load rating
    5. Mileage

    I use BFG KO2. Unfortunately spending more time on tar. Not worried much about the noise. I always prefered Continental 4x4 but lower mileage and Michelin.

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    1. Durable side walls and puncture resistance
    2. Handling on the road (family safety)
    3. Off road traction, mud, sand etc
    4. Value for money
    5. Speed rating (unless you're in a super-charged Range Rover or something, then speed rating becomes much more important. My old cruiser barely gets to 120 kph so it isn't really a concern)
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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    some interesting opinions coming out here. One thing is for sure, it would seem (Although this sample size is currently too small to make a real comparison), but it would seem that this is starting to show that these magazine tire reviews are not really worth much in terms of real-world requirements from serious off-roaders/overlanders.

    It seems almost as if the magazine tests might be okay for people inclined to go for an 80/20 tar/offroad type AT. But anyone looking at a 50/50 or more offroad biased tires, the tests are pretty useless, as it would seem the tires that score the worst, seem to be the one chosen by that type of buyer.

    I run 265/65/18 BFG on my Disco 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sed View Post


    1. Tar traction and breaking
    2. Gravel road
    3. Puncture resistance
    4. Load rating
    5. Mileage

    I use BFG KO2. Unfortunately spending more time on tar. Not worried much about the noise. I always prefered Continental 4x4 but lower mileage and Michelin.
    I suspect you may have bought the wrong tires then. I love BF, and doubt I would ever run anything else again, but tar traction and breaking, especially on wet, is not their strong suit. The KO2 is better then the old ones, but honestly BF muds are better on wet tar then the all terrains ever will be

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    The formulae is quite easy. Grip and longevity cannot be mentioned in the same sentence. Noise and grip in mud neither. Profile grip and comfort [55 vs 70 eg] also not.

    So to me you need 2 or 3 sets of tires depending on where you drive when, road, wet, mud, sand etc.
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    I hate slow punctures.

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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    Always interesting and brings to mind an old saying.

    Trying to keep everyone happy is the quickest way to bankruptcy.

    After having BFG muds on my first Pajero, I found that they were not suited to my needs at all and I eventually destroyed them.

    I loved what they gave me in the rough, but they were more on tar than the rough stuff. Even though Paj was a dedicated holiday vehicle, you still spend more time getting to the destination than the rough stuff when you get there.

    The Scorpions ATR that I have ran on the Gen 2 Paj and now on the Gen 3 Pajtu have served me much better than the muds ever did. I find that they behave very well on tar, I have no problems with grip or wet braking. On sand they behave very well without having to be deflate too much. In deep sand on the banks of the Boteti river at 1.7 on the front and 1.8 at the back, they climbed those banks well without slip. They were also comfortable on the corrugations at those pressure.

    When it came time to deflate, I eye balled them and then took the pressures to see what I was at. Although the footprint lengthened there is hardly any side wall bulge.

    Good manners on tar ..... check
    Confident in the wet ........ check
    Corrugations ......... check
    Sand driving ....... check
    No punctures ........ check
    Longevity ........... only on 20 000. Time will tell.
    M&S rating ...... check
    No cracking or chipping ....... check

    I have to agree with RPiet, tests are devised in the minds of men, and we all know that it is a rare occurrence to get men to agree on anything. So those tests are born out of imagination.

    In the real world, the Scorpions work well .... for me, as do many of the other brands for other people. Driving style, vehicle, load and expectation all play a role here.

    Brand bashing is the only negative. I think that most brands are after market share and are producing some good quality product out there, the differences are getting too small to stress over.
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    Default Re: What is important to you in tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Stan Weakley View Post
    In order of priority:


    1. Sidewall strength and puncture resistance.
    2. Replacement availability in more remote areas.
    3. Load rating.
    4. Performance on gravel.
    5. Mileage.
    6. Noise.
    7. Performance on tar.


    I have BF Goodrich 265/75 all terrains fitted to a Land Cruiser 76 4,2 diesel.
    Agree with Stan fully for offroading in an overlanding context.

    Having said that:
    I use Goodyear AT Wranglers (Still old tread pattern) on the Isuzu which may be a compromise but then we travel slowly, even on tar.
    The vehicle is used mainly for overlanding and is usually heavily loaded. (Yes, I know!)

    I do not get amazing mileage though - but have to date not had any sidewall damage or punctures (offroad) - strangely in town on tar I have had the odd nail or screw penetrate.
    I have had some rock damage (chipping) mainly on the shoulders of the tyre but only under severe rocky conditions - never enough to cause any failure or danger.

    Many thousands of km overland on gravel, tracks, rocky, sandy and mud including river crossings.
    Even a couple of 4x4 trails up to grade 4 (VERY carefully!!)

    In my opinion the greatest chance of sidewall damage is when deflated crossing rivers when the rubber is wet and cuts easily.
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    1. Sidewall strength and puncture resistance
    2. Mud Traction
    3. Self Cleaning
    4. Wet Tar Traction
    5. Milage
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