Cape Town Water Crisis

[CornelisVoigt]

Ja, Cornielus, maar eers moet dit reen

Verseker moet dit ja. En glo my dit sal.

[Sunray]

Verseker moet dit ja. En glo my dit sal.

Wanner? het jy n datum?

[CornelisVoigt]

Elke dag n dag nader

[Mike Nel GX]

Ek het erens gelees of gehoor dat Oom Angus gese het die Kaapse damme gaan einde Maart vol wees.
Ek sal graag wil glo, maar ek dink Oom Angus.......
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Laat ek maar eerder nie daai sin klaar maak nie

[Elders]

Dis verbasend hoe vinnig mens water vanaf die dak kan opvang met watertenks. Maar ek hoor daar is n groot waglys vir die 5000liter tenks. Met n drukpompie kan n hele huis uit tenks water kry. Op die plase gebruik baie boere reënwater vir huis gebruik en drinkwater. Sonder enige duur filtreerders.

So paar goed om in gedagte te hou :

- baie huise word gebou met allerhande uitsteek dakke en het dan talle geute oral oor die erf .... So dit raak baie moeilik om al die water op te vang.

- n 64m2 dak gee vir my slegs n paar duisend liter water deur die somer maande, twee dalk drie weke se gebruik vir die huis. So jy gaan n GROOT dak nodig hê as jy "die huis" van water wil voorsien.

- jy het n filtrasie stelsel nodig, al is dit net "big blue" filters.

- daai klompie tenks moet erens in jou werf staan ... naby geute, maar verkieslik darem nie by jou braai area nie .... nie baie dorps-huise bied al die opsies nie.



JA, ons vang die reen water op en het ons water verbruik drasties verminder. Maar is ver van die punt om die munisipale toevoer af te skakel.

[Elders]

I was contemplating this but was told by greywater installers this cannot work as the soapiness affects the seal on the toilet (make it snotty) and then it will start dripping...

Thanks for the heads-up.

I will keep an eye out for this.


Let's see what the toilet system does with the grey water .....


Worst case - during winter I can use the excess rain water for the toilets. So for most of the year I should be able to get this off the grid.

[CornelisVoigt]

So paar goed om in gedagte te hou :

- baie huise word gebou met allerhande uitsteek dakke en het dan talle geute oral oor die erf .... So dit raak baie moeilik om al die water op te vang.

- n 64m2 dak gee vir my slegs n paar duisend liter water deur die somer maande, twee dalk drie weke se gebruik vir die huis. So jy gaan n GROOT dak nodig hê as jy "die huis" van water wil voorsien.

- jy het n filtrasie stelsel nodig, al is dit net "big blue" filters.

- daai klompie tenks moet erens in jou werf staan ... naby geute, maar verkieslik darem nie by jou braai area nie .... nie baie dorps-huise bied al die opsies nie.



JA, ons vang die reen water op en het ons water verbruik drasties verminder. Maar is ver van die punt om die munisipale toevoer af te skakel.

Dit is ongelukkig die probleem ja. Erwe is klein en huise nie beplan sodat tenks opgesit kan word nie. Maar dit is vir sekere mense n opsie. Al is dit vir toilette. Kom ons vertou maar

[bredsj]

Elke dag n dag nader

Elke TWEE dae nader!

[bredsj]

I didn't read all the comments, it will take too long, BUT as a Cape Townian I can say that the City Council are beyond arrogant. White people believe that everything the ANC do is bad and everything the DA do is good. Now the DA's days are numbered, they will not survive 2019. They are busy with infighting rather than plan to get water. They have slept on the job, the Table Mountain aquifer should have been exploited last year already. The salt water plants should have come onto line last year already, but then they cancelled all tenders and started all over. Why? Because they have infighting and short term goals, that is the name of the game, they are only in power until 2019, so what happens beyond 2019 is not their problem. The DA government declared a "noodtoestand", yet they still follow all red tape to waste time. What a waste of time. Day Zero will bring anarchy, imagine 4 mil plus inhabitants queue at 200 points, thus 20000 per day at each point. That is excluding businesses. Say you run a guest house, o my word, are you going to queue for your own household plus the x no guests in the guest house??

Fact is, the City Council was warned way back that the water supply is not adequate, it is their responsibility to make the government aware, nobody else's. They everybody and sundry to court, they can't complain that government is not listening. I know where I am going to vote in 2019.

And this reply will get a lot of blind responses, so be it. It will not solve Cape Town's problems.

[bredsj]

Dit is ongelukkig die probleem ja. Erwe is klein en huise nie beplan sodat tenks opgesit kan word nie. Maar dit is vir sekere mense n opsie. Al is dit vir toilette. Kom ons vertou maar

En wie betaal daarvoor? Ek het al R40k spandeer, wys my hoeveel mense het geld daarvoor terwyl ons nog steeds bel;asting betaal en al die tariewe soos mense wat dienste het. Dit is maklik om kommentaar te lewer.

[bredsj]

Thanks for the heads-up.

I will keep an eye out for this.


Let's see what the toilet system does with the grey water .....


Worst case - during winter I can use the excess rain water for the toilets. So for most of the year I should be able to get this off the grid.

My grey water system is working without all leaking, ou vrou stories! More dificult to get rid of the smell though.

[Chris Stoffel]

I didn't read all the comments, it will take too long, BUT as a Cape Townian I can say that the City Council are beyond arrogant. White people believe that everything the ANC do is bad and everything the DA do is good. Now the DA's days are numbered, they will not survive 2019. They are busy with infighting rather than plan to get water. They have slept on the job, the Table Mountain aquifer should have been exploited last year already. The salt water plants should have come onto line last year already, but then they cancelled all tenders and started all over. Why? Because they have infighting and short term goals, that is the name of the game, they are only in power until 2019, so what happens beyond 2019 is not their problem. The DA government declared a "noodtoestand", yet they still follow all red tape to waste time. What a waste of time. Day Zero will bring anarchy, imagine 4 mil plus inhabitants queue at 200 points, thus 20000 per day at each point. That is excluding businesses. Say you run a guest house, o my word, are you going to queue for your own household plus the x no guests in the guest house??

Fact is, the City Council was warned way back that the water supply is not adequate, it is their responsibility to make the government aware, nobody else's. They everybody and sundry to court, they can't complain that government is not listening. I know where I am going to vote in 2019.

And this reply will get a lot of blind responses, so be it. It will not solve Cape Town's problems.

You seems to be very frustrated. One needs to remember that the responsibility to provide water does not belong to the City. The City only cleans up the water they receive from government owned dams. It is a government responsibility. The aquifers and all that water belongs to the government.

But, I must point out to you, reluctantly, that you must take time to read all the comments. Most of what you are saying have been discussed on the forum in several threads.

[tustinr]

You seems to be very frustrated. One needs to remember that the responsibility to provide water does not belong to the City. The City only cleans up the water they receive from government owned dams. It is a government responsibility. The aquifers and all that water belongs to the government.

But, I must point out to you, reluctantly, that you must take time to read all the comments. Most of what you are saying have been discussed on the forum in several threads.

you guys underestimate how much water you can collect off a standard size roof in a year via gutters. Here in oz it's law to have rain water tanks. On my previous property where annual rainfall was under 600 mm a year I had 26000l tanks and they overflowed. Rural properties here have 50000 to 90000 l tanks. Accessing it for drinking is no big issue.

[Gungets Tuft]

You seems to be very frustrated. One needs to remember that the responsibility to provide water does not belong to the City. The City only cleans up the water they receive from government owned dams. It is a government responsibility. The aquifers and all that water belongs to the government.

But, I must point out to you, reluctantly, that you must take time to read all the comments. Most of what you are saying have been discussed on the forum in several threads.

Correct. The WC government asked for assistance up to 3 years ago, the last request from national government in Jan 2017 which was turned down by Nomvula Makonyani who said the DA were raising a false alarm and were trying to squeeze money out of DWAF. There are at least 5 approved desalination plants waiting for funding from national government - I know one company awarded 2 but government has not released funding. The Western Cape is being used as a political points scoring exercise.

[Nerd]

This sounds like another little one might be joining soon 😂🤣

We shall remain interested in the original theme of this thread

Nerd

[OFFROAD ADDICT]

If cheap politicking and red tap wasn't going on we in the Cape would have had a good system whether Desalination or other, already going.

Now we sit with this problem.
The world is now watching Cape Town and some of its resident becoming creative with new ideas of water saving and usage.
This problem can happen to other cities and making plans now can prevent a certain catastrophe in many cases.

I have found that used shower or bath water in most cases have cause issues with the cisterns. Jelly like substance with hair and other stuff does interfere with the system.
So i just use rain water from my tanks, when that drys up, i will have no other alternative but to use grey water.

It is a no brainier that with all the ocean around us, we should go the desalination route. Otherwise what other options are there.

The City could face another problem when or if the rains do come, Flooding, the ground is hard, the water wont be absorbed so quick.

[mudgrubber]

Rainwater collection arithmetic can be simple i.e. 200m2 house x 0,5m of rain per year = 100m3 or 100 000 litres. Now storage of this volume is more complex and challenging with seasonal rainfall and steady consumption. But using 12 000 litres per month (100 litres per day x 4 people) = approx 8 months supply. A bit of arithmetic and knowledge of monthly likely rainfall will reduce the storage needed but not by too much is my guess.

If one could collect the water from all roofed areas and the paving (driveways etc) you could probably squeeze a year's supply out?

All that is needed is the rain (and plenty of JoJo's)!

[AndyT]

All that is needed is the rain (and plenty of JoJo's)!

Right there is the problem .....................

[Elders]

My grey water system is working without all leaking, ou vrou stories! More dificult to get rid of the smell though.

THANKS !

for the no leaks ...


any success on managing the smell ....

[Chris Stoffel]

THANKS !

for the no leaks ...


any success on managing the smell ....

Add Domestos to the water.