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    Default Re: The Grab Bag - an essential piece of overlanding equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kola View Post
    Personal experience on this...

    End 2016 I was in a bad motorcycle accident with an open femur fracture in Seweweeks Poort (no mobile signal, middle of the week so not a lot of traffic).
    A friend went to get help and I was flow out to hospital by helicopter.
    My knee brace straps on my injured leg acted as a tourniquet which saved my life and my leg.
    When the straps were eventually cut I lost a LOT of blood VERY fast.

    Very few people know how severe the bleeding from such an injury could be, it is frightening.
    Glad you were ok! Yes People can literally bleed out in minutes. Shock sets in and you die. And it really is incredible how well tourniquets work to keep the blood in the body.

    Part of being prepared is being prepared to deal with a variety of issues, such as personal defense, food/water shortage, and medical emergencies. As you said in your previous post, you need to know what you have with you, where it is, and how your training/knowledge can be used to deal with X situation.

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    Something I always have (one is under the back seat in the 4x4 and the other in my grab bag on outdoor trips) my Katadyn water filters.

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    I carry "Lifestraw Water Purifiers"

    See they are on special for R200-00!

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    It is interesting to read everything on the various lists.

    I suppose it all depends on where you are going and what your worst case scenario is.

    I am surprised that no one has added a whistle. A pea (sports) whistle works best at attracting attention.

    Also in our case, we have a 8 year old to also contend with should things go pear shaped.

    So for our needs, things are simple. Sat phone, water. And never leave the car. The rest are luxuries. Adventure racing has shown that you dont need much to survive. Being comfortable while surviving is another ball game.

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    Here’s mine, put it together for exactly the same reasons as the OP mentioned. Contains all essentials in 3s. 3 ways to make fire, treat water, find food, signal for help, navigate and keep warm and dry.

    Other than that also included a machete, fix blade knife, leatherman, fishing kit, trapping kit, duct tape, tin foil, a tarp, tinder, solar battery pack, torch and spare batteries, wire saw, 5 days worth of trail mix, first aid kit with all essential medication and a few other odds and ends like cooking pot and tablet burning stove.

    I have to to admit I had fun putting it together and researching what the American’s put in their bugout bags.

    I must mention though that I always carry an additional 3 days worth of food and more than enough water so my fist option would be to stay with the vehicle and call from the sat phone and only under extreme circumstances to take the hike to get help.
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    Default Re: The Grab Bag - an essential piece of overlanding equipment

    Quote Originally Posted by Kola View Post
    Do not just pack a lot of stuff and forget about it until you may need it, you need to be aware of what you carry and why.
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    Remember to view/download the Excel sheet in post #1 and modify it to suit your needs/environment.
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    A correctly stocked IFAK is imperative. Things go south very fast and having one literally can be all that stands in the way of death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieterk View Post
    A compass - no batteries needed.
    Condoms- can be used to carry water/tourniquet/ elastics for catapult/hairband/ waterproof vessel etc.
    Strong large plastic bag
    Thin lightweight waterproof poncho/groundsheet-shelter/ something for the cold.
    Space blanket.
    1/2 roll toilet paper.
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    Great info and I dread Kola's situation - a few mates have been stuck in difficult areas after bike accidents; no fun at all.

    But something to consider - a list of what is in the bag, in the bag. You may forget, be in shock and forget, or someone else may have to use its contents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swimma View Post
    Also, for those interested in reading up about the subject, this is a good place to start:

    https://thetourniquetproject.org/

    Years ago, tourniquets were seen as a bad idea for treatment of heavy bleeding, but the general attitude to them has changed completely, mostly thanks due to their widespread use in the military. The number one cause of battlefield fatalities used to be due to heavy bleeding from a limb. Thanks largely to the use of tourniquets, the number one cause of death is now due to heavy bleeding from a junctional area (such as the pelvis), but there are also junctional tourniquets available (very expensive though, and require training in order to be use successfully).
    Correct - the old-school ABC (Airway, Bleeding, Circulation) has subsequently been replaced with MARCHES (Massive Hemorrhage, Airway, Respiration, Circulation, Head Injury, Environment/Evacuation, Secondary), as the proliferation of IEDs in use today often necessitate the immediate application of a tourniquet in order to save lives before worrying about airway and breathing.
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    I have 2 always ready. One is for survival and other is totally tactical. Just add the AR for threatening emergencies.
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    My survival box... looking at the others I think a small back pack would be more practical than the plastic box...
    What is not shown is
    Cotton wool balls impregnated in vaseline for fire starter
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    Also a lightweight tarp... but maybe another space blanket

    Comments are welcome to I can add or remove from the kit
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    Default Re: The Grab Bag - an essential piece of overlanding equipment

    Burn gel comes in very handy.
    Imodium or similar as well.
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    Interesting thread.
    We are looking at the exact same thing now.
    Also looking at hiking gear for simple hikes while overlanding, to 2 plus day hikes.
    Lots of the same stuff we need for the longer hikes should be in the grab bag too.

    Not so sure if it is a good idea to take stuff out of the grab bag and use for hikes as you may forget to put it back, so does it make sense to rather keep the grab bag and hiking bags independent?
    On the other hand, if you can combine them it also makes sense. What if you overland, set up camp, go on a hike and get back with a stolen/raided/burnt out vehicle or something similar?

    What are your thoughts on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDB View Post
    What are your thoughts on this?
    I found this talk immensely interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fow_qetxWg

    and

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73VBXpgFPw

    I think we can easily forget how little we really need in a particular situation. This makes me repack/evaluate my grab bag for each overland tour/weekend camp/hike before we head out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTolbos View Post
    I found this talk immensely interesting:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fow_qetxWg

    and

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M73VBXpgFPw

    I think we can easily forget how little we really need in a particular situation. This makes me repack/evaluate my grab bag for each overland tour/weekend camp/hike before we head out.
    Excellent.
    Backs up many of my thoughts re the amount of unnecessary kit that people take with them on trips.
    If you make a noise or need music in the bush or on the beach, you’re missing the point.

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    So I was given this bag by a good mate who upgraded his kit.

    And I've been meaning to do this for a very long time.

    So this morning I was bored and thought I'd see what I could rustle up for this zombie apocalypse short term survival bag.

    And I have to say, this is addictive and one could find yourself on a slippery slope in terms of over engineering your bag to help you survive. Needs for everyone is obviously different but I believe mine will keep me and swambo alive for about a week.

    Here is a list of what I had lying around the house and what I have actually managed to fit into this little bag.

    Coffee cup photo is for size perspective.




    • Waterproof flashlight
    • Handheld gps
    • Batteries for both these items
    • Half a role duct tape
    • 20 cable ties
    • Leatherman tool
    • Life straw and a few water purifying tablets
    • 2 x lighters, a magnifying glass and waterproof matches
    • Chemical hand warming pack, good for 24 hours
    • 2 x space blankets
    • Set of hiking/backpacking pots (3 of them)
    • Small hiking gas burner and canister
    • Buff to help with cold
    • 3 packs of 2-minute noodles and 8 packs instant soup
    • 1 x tube of those dehydrated tablets (don't know these are called) that becomes wet wipes
    • Two folded up black rubbish bags
    • 6 meter paracord
    • Few small coffee, creamer and sugar sachets.
    • R1000 cash in a zip lock bag



    What I’ll still add is and probably need a bigger bag for this:




    • a small solar panel/power bank of sort with phone charger cable
    • Small handheld dual band radio
    • A strap on medic pack with a few basic items mentioned in this thread. No bigger than say 2 tins of bully beef.


    This and my army style 2L liter water bottle with carry strap will be traveling with from now on.

    Depending on the situation, I may or may not have my firearm with and 2 extra clips on the holster itself. Still looking for a suitable one.

    Anyway, this is enormous fun and I feel strangely empowered and on top of the world with this little bag.
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    Some photos of just the bulky stuff.
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    Default Re: The Grab Bag - an essential piece of overlanding equipment

    Interesting discussion! The necessity of an emergency grab bag for an overland vehicle should not be underestimated. Below follows a list of what I carry in my emergency grab bag, which is a very handy (and durable) Kiwidition Toa messenger bag. The grab bag does not replace the comprehensive medical bag carried in my vehicle, nor the daypack I use for excursions away from the vehicle.

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