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    Just got news of holiday makers travelling through Umtata yesterday.When they stopped at robot,thugs unsuccessfully cut tiedowns holding their bicycles on the trailer.Driver got away but 200m later one bike fell off when another guy tried to take it.Driver managed to get away in time to secure load further on.With construction to start on new Mandella highway guess this will be on the increase.This most probably happens all over but this just serves as a reminder as one gets complacent in the festive season.Happy Xmas.

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    Yes, this is getting more and more prevalent.

    Went to collect a LC in Lenasia and when I parked to make a phone call, my phone was grabbed from me. I had it in both hands, in my lap. Was still finding the no. Then he ran into the taxi rank.

    Hope the next time he robs somebody, he ends up under some tyres. Hopefully a truck.
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    Basically be careful when driving through Eastern Cape. I have had two vehicles hijacked for stock they were carrying. The vehicles were recovered, minus the batteries and spare tyre. Only closed body trucks should be used to transport goods in this area. Any goods strapped and netted down will be stolen by guys jumping onto to vehicle and cutting nets and straps. A vehicle following the truck will collect anything that falls off. Locals will not assist you, they fear for their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Yes, this is getting more and more prevalent.

    Went to collect a LC in Lenasia and when I parked to make a phone call, my phone was grabbed from me. I had it in both hands, in my lap. Was still finding the no. Then he ran into the taxi rank.

    Hope the next time he robs somebody, he ends up under some tyres. Hopefully a truck.
    This probably happen close to the train station near the taxi rank. It is a high risk zone for snatch and run crimes. Always ensure our windows are closed and doors are locked. Theses criminals have been operating in this area for a while. Yours is the 12th incident of this nature in the past month and a half. Please report it to the Lenasia Police station. We need these crimes reported so that it will reflect on record and force Lnasia SAPS to do something about it.
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    Agree must be reported
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    On the R72 the other side of Kids beach there are permanent patrol vehicles that escort trucks going slowly up the long uphill's. These criminals come out of the bush and offload the vehicles as it moves slowly up the hill.

    From the Kei river to Umtata is a bloody war zone. They steal anything not locked down off slow moving vehicles. Police stand and watch.

    Trucks that crash in the Kei cuttings get looted down to the last bag or box. Again cops watch.

    Need a John Rambo to shake things up a bit.
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    I drive through the Transkei every second month.

    There are a few tricks I have learnt, apart from the locked doors, the standard precautions, etc.


    • Anything tied down must never be fitted with one long rope, if they cut one end, the rope comes off and everything comes off. AND If the rope is cut, you then have to stop to secure the load!!




    • I use a combination of a cargo net tied separately.




    • Then many (shortish) ropes crisscrossing over the same load, tied separately. The idea is many of the ropes then need to be cut and the net needs to be cut as well, get to the load. i.e. if you get stopped at a robot, removing the ropes takes too long to get to the load. if one or two ropes are cut keep driving you DON'T stop.




    • and additional nylon tie down straps.




    • Steel cables locking bikes or load together works, brilliantly.




    This year I have done Umtata twice with a fully loaded open trailer. last year I did 16 loads in a open bakkie and open trailer fully loaded with aluminium ladders, etc.

    ALSO most towns now have a bypass. except butterworth. Even Umtata has a "sort of bypass" through the suburbs and a small section through town, you miss the worst traffic and busiest area. So you reduce your risk right down.

    AVOID PEAK TIMES.

    ALSO get through umtata BEFORE 07:30, most people are not awake yet.

    I have never lost anything with 30 years of driving frequently through the Transkei.
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    Even Umtata has a "sort of bypass" through the suburbs and a small section through town, you miss the worst traffic and busiest area. So you reduce your risk right down.

    Is the “sort of bypass” easy to pick up ?

    Will be going through Mthatha mid day this coming Saturday


    Not worried about security, just don’t have time to waste.

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    We going through again Sunday, maybe Saturday. Which direction are you going. If towards Durban turn left after the Engen garage. Sission st. Right into R61. Back onto N2. It cuts out the road past the station. Best to get through before 07:30.
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    * 1975/8 SHREK Land-Cruiser FJ40 DIESEL P/U, BFG 31x10.5 muds. 2 x 1.6 ton tirfor winchs
    * 1994 Land-Cruiser J70 DIESEL P/U, my truck recovery vehicle. 15000 warn winch. And 3.5ton tirfor winch. Back full of appropriate sized recovery gear. BFG31x10.5 muds
    * 2014 Land-Cruiser LX V8 76 DIESEL STATION WAGON, BFG's 285 all terrain
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    * 2006 FORD ranger 2.5 diesel. 4x4, (what was I thinking, also not a Toyota!) I have a spare 5000 warn winch I might fit.
    * 2011 Isuzu bakkie 4x4
    * FIONA - Rhino Yamaha 660 4x4. Warn winch. Mud tyres
    * 4x4 trailer, 1987, BFG all terrain
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    Butterworth has a long bypass. My farm is near near Kei mouth, so turn left onto mazeppa bay road and go across the pont. Cuts off many kms.
    Current off-road vehicles: *** Great family accommodation. See Facebook, Google maps and airbnb. Wild Wind Ranch/Mkulu Kei
    * 1975/8 SHREK Land-Cruiser FJ40 DIESEL P/U, BFG 31x10.5 muds. 2 x 1.6 ton tirfor winchs
    * 1994 Land-Cruiser J70 DIESEL P/U, my truck recovery vehicle. 15000 warn winch. And 3.5ton tirfor winch. Back full of appropriate sized recovery gear. BFG31x10.5 muds
    * 2014 Land-Cruiser LX V8 76 DIESEL STATION WAGON, BFG's 285 all terrain
    * 1988 HILUX TOYOTA 4x4 D/C.
    FOR SALE
    * 2011 HILUX 4X4 P/U, BFG 31x10.5 all terrain
    * 1999 PAJERO 3.5 V6 Mitsubishi (sorry not a Toyota), BFG 31x10.5 all terrain
    * 2006 FORD ranger 2.5 diesel. 4x4, (what was I thinking, also not a Toyota!) I have a spare 5000 warn winch I might fit.
    * 2011 Isuzu bakkie 4x4
    * FIONA - Rhino Yamaha 660 4x4. Warn winch. Mud tyres
    * 4x4 trailer, 1987, BFG all terrain
    * GSA 1200 BMW ADVENTURE LC 2018, the closest motorbike to a land cruiser
    * A Massey Fergusson 375 tractor. Not BFG's and not a 4x4




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    I drive in and through Mthatha at least once a month.
    I was there yesterday and today, as a matter of fact.
    It is not as hectic as people make it. Butterworth is usually much worse (but I know a by-pass for that as well )

    I have never had an incident.
    When I get out to buy anything, the cell phone and wallet stays in the car - I only take a credit card or the necessary cash with me, stashed in my pocket.

    Here are the two through routes for the N2.
    If you are aiming at Port St Johns (R63) you don't have much choice, but to go through the city centre.
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    So, went through centre of Mthatha mid morning on Saturday and was no worse than Durban city on any day of the week

    Just wish I was forewarned about the height of the ( poorly marked ?) speed bump leaving town. SWAMBO’s platkar launched pretty much all wheels off the ground..... with me driving

    Had to listen to “it’s okay for you to try and wreck YOUR Jeep off-roading...... but don’t try and wreck MY pride and joy on the back streets of the Eastern Cape

    Thanks again to all for their advise on driving the Eastern Cape...... lovely part of SA !

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    Are there any updates on the best way to go through Mthatha?

    I will be coming from the Kokstad side and going through on 11th August, and turning off to Hole in the Wall.

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    I was told the other day that someone lost his boat. At red robots perps disengage your trailer. When you take-off your halfway down the road and half a ton lighter and another vehicles comes from nowhere to tow away. This is the new thing so I hear.

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    Large Fish Hooks and Minora Razor Blades strategically placed in and around wiring looms, straps and other places where the fekkersfingers will be going is a great passive deterrent.
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    I was in Umtata 2 weeks ago.... no drama at all, in fact Mount Frere is more of a pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus and Zelda View Post
    I was in Umtata 2 weeks ago.... no drama at all, in fact Mount Frere is more of a pain.
    I would imagine the time of the month will also affect how many of the crooked are active?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Betta View Post
    I was told the other day that someone lost his boat. At red robots perps disengage your trailer. When you take-off your halfway down the road and half a ton lighter and another vehicles comes from nowhere to tow away. This is the new thing so I hear.
    Towing a trailer in Rhodesia and them zim you need two safety chains, by law.

    I still use two chains on all my trailers, the second chain I either put it through the pin (making it very difficult to remove) or I padlock the chain to the vehicle. Some of my vehicles I drilled a hole in the tow ball plate on the vehicle for the padlock, as there was nowhere to wrap the chain around. You need to do this anyway if you leave your 4x4 and trailer and go shopping. easy fix.
    Current off-road vehicles: *** Great family accommodation. See Facebook, Google maps and airbnb. Wild Wind Ranch/Mkulu Kei
    * 1975/8 SHREK Land-Cruiser FJ40 DIESEL P/U, BFG 31x10.5 muds. 2 x 1.6 ton tirfor winchs
    * 1994 Land-Cruiser J70 DIESEL P/U, my truck recovery vehicle. 15000 warn winch. And 3.5ton tirfor winch. Back full of appropriate sized recovery gear. BFG31x10.5 muds
    * 2014 Land-Cruiser LX V8 76 DIESEL STATION WAGON, BFG's 285 all terrain
    * 1988 HILUX TOYOTA 4x4 D/C.
    FOR SALE
    * 2011 HILUX 4X4 P/U, BFG 31x10.5 all terrain
    * 1999 PAJERO 3.5 V6 Mitsubishi (sorry not a Toyota), BFG 31x10.5 all terrain
    * 2006 FORD ranger 2.5 diesel. 4x4, (what was I thinking, also not a Toyota!) I have a spare 5000 warn winch I might fit.
    * 2011 Isuzu bakkie 4x4
    * FIONA - Rhino Yamaha 660 4x4. Warn winch. Mud tyres
    * 4x4 trailer, 1987, BFG all terrain
    * GSA 1200 BMW ADVENTURE LC 2018, the closest motorbike to a land cruiser
    * A Massey Fergusson 375 tractor. Not BFG's and not a 4x4




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    That's why the trailer cuff is a winner.
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    They lifted secured gas bottles off the trailer while waiting for the traffic lights to change. Won’t be going that way again. Just not worth the risk. Hope Eastern Province Parks board reads this thread. Friends also stopped in Mount Ayliffe. A local came up to them and advised them to move on as it was not a safe place for them to be, especially towards evening.

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