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View Poll Results: Have you had lions in camp and felt threatened?

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  • Yes had lions close up in camp but did not feel threatened

    33 40.24%
  • Yes had lions in camp but they kept their distance

    8 9.76%
  • Yes had lions in camp, felt threated as they did not keep their distance

    6 7.32%
  • No, never had lions in camp

    15 18.29%
  • Never camped in Mabua

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRON View Post
    IMHO that might not be so easy as they have now made the association between water and humans- this could make them more aggressive in their search for water around campsites.
    Agree might not be easy but is at least moving in the right direction. Alternatively they might fence in the camp sites
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRON View Post
    IMHO that might not be so easy as they have now made the association between water and humans- this could make them more aggressive in their search for water around campsites.
    Start with a new batch of lions or give the current one's 'n goeie pak slae
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRON View Post
    IMHO that might not be so easy as they have now made the association between water and humans- this could make them more aggressive in their search for water around campsites.
    Or less.

    Just as we learn their behaviour, so they learn ours. it would be an interesting study to see if they are learning our water habits. We shower in the mornings or before dusk ...... do they know this ?

    Do they know which camps have water or are they just taking a chance ?

    We followed two lioness from Mabua 3 on our first trip there and they went to a brick structure across the pan to look for water. We were told that this was part of the solar pump set up but had not worked for some time. Yet they went to to look so at some time it was source for them.
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    I'll never second guess lion behaviour, even if certian aspects of their habits have been studied by experts and the like I'll remain the scary cat. Lions surely use habit and memory to find sources of water when they need to. Some experts claim (after studies) that the use of their strong sense of smell is most prevalent and effective for finding water in dry or desert-like environs.

    You can't teach an old dog new tricks! The lions will not change their habits especially if nothing else really changes. Replacing the said lions with new "unlearned" ones will only be a temporary solution until they too "learn" the same habits. Fencing IMHO will not solve the problem and will only destroy the real bush feel of Mabua, that I love. What about leopard, which are real stealthy stalkers and can't be controlled by fences? Who will manage the condition of fences where holes are continually dug by numerous animals?

    Is the answer to take away all water sources and only pump water into the pans. No, I doubt that this would work as our water habits will remain a source for a thirsty lion. Lion are also not only found "camp highjacking" at campsites with water - they have been found at dry sites as well. The shade of the A-frame?

    A solution is more complicated or maybe we must just accept the problem as it is and be more aware and careful of our surrounds and behaviour. Maybe the problem was exercabated over the past few years with the increase in volumes of tourists to Mabua and with sites being modernised (water taps, showers and pit latrines).
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    Robbie, Mabua is a "MUST GO" destination. In a roof top tent or a rip stop canvas ground tent: all the same. And if you are lucky enough to experience lions in your camp, so much better. It is a once in a lifetime experience.
    Two years ago we camped at Mabua 2. Sitting next to the campfire a 9h00 in the evening, we heard a funny noise towards the right.Switching on the spot light we saw a male and two females approaching our campsite. We scrambled for the bakkie, and when we looked back the male was passing our campfire and chairs. For one and a half hours they entertained us,by playing around in our camp. Eventually the decided that it was time to go and with deep loud roars left our camp and wandered off into the pan.

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    Tobie, Have been to Mabua many times (and had lions in the camp 80% of the time), and it's worth being careful if you're alone and need to shower, as the shower cubicles are circular and do not have any "see through" vantage points. If you are alone, take a decent mirror, so you can see behind you if you're on the ground. An RTT is the way to go, preferably with some solar lighting.

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    With respect to the lady that got injured in Matopi we should probably include leopards in the above (or new poll).

    I will still be going to Mabua in May and CKGR in Aug in my RV5 Oztent with fallback inside my bakkie canopy. I will be very careful and try to not fall asleep in my chair during the day. I use a garden spray bottel for shower sommer next to the bakkie. I might look for a experiencd travelbuddy closer to the time to join if I feel not comftable. At least somebody to chat with and exchange live stories with

    Camp booked and planning started,. Anybody might be interested?
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    Hi fellow bush lovers

    We will be camping at Mabua, Polentswa and Matopi towards the end of March 2018. I am keeping a close eye on all the threats on the forum that covers Mabua and surrounds

    It will be a live long dream to camp there as we visited the SA side many many times

    We will come from Nossob yes with trailers/off road caravans. We are 4 famailies.

    It seems like we will be able to get water at Mabua from the pictures on this threat, as we will camp there for 2 nights?

    Any advice on how to be save etc. What to do and not. We have camped all over Southern Africa with no fences, but still would like to get your feedback

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    Only advice I can give is not to be complacent, even if you think there is nothing around. 4 spotted hyena gave us plenty trouble last time we were there. 4 families is a lot to concern yourself over. I would have someone on guard duty with that many people around. Not just Mabua, Polentswa and Rooiputs too.

    In Tzendze we had a honey badger drag our rubbish bag off the tree where we had hung it and the next night walked calmly under our table between our legs. Tzendze is fenced
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