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    Does anyone know why the DLP are no longer releasing news?

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    To stay out of the lime light, due to some conflict it seems. I think the locals are not so happy anymore with the lions. Maybe someone else can give more light.



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    Also strife & complaints in certain circles about Flip so he decided to curb the flow of info.
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    Today in the republikein, farmer lost 86 goats, at Grootberg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLK View Post
    Today in the republikein, farmer lost 86 goats, at Grootberg.
    Is that normal lion behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustGypsy View Post
    Is that normal lion behavior
    If the goats are all in a kraal, yes.
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    Even in the open they are easy prey, and then obviously in an "open" kraal. Thats why the dehlra project has started helping the farmers construct sturdier kraals and covering them with shade netting, so that the lions cant see what is inside, puts them off. But if the animals are left in the open or not put into a special kraal then its all over.
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    Francoise Steynberg - Altesaam 86 bokke en skape is Woensdagnag deur sowat 10 leeus in 'n kraal by Awantapos naby Grootberg in die Kunenestreek afgemaai.
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    "Byna die hele lewensbestaan van die boer is in een nag uitgewis. Al wat in die kraal oorgebly het, is 13 boklammertjies. Selfs die hond is deur die leeus vrekgebyt," het mnr. Vitalis Florry van die Torra-bewaringsgebied gister aan Republikein gesÍ.
    Die boer wat die reuseskade gely het, is mnr. Sameul Gawiseb wat tussen Grootberg en Melkbosrand boer.
    "Al die vee was oornag in die kraal toegemaak," het Florry bevestig.
    Die kraal lyk soos 'n slagveld.
    "Die veewagter het die leeus in die nag gesien, maar hy kon nie sien of hulle nekbande dra nie."
    Die leeus kom vermoedelik van Kliprivier af.
    "Ons weet nie waar die leeus nou is nie, vermoedelik agter die berg," het Florry gesÍ.
    Hy het bevestig 'n beampte van die ministerie van die omgewing en toerisme was gister saam met Gawiseb op die plaas.
    Florry meen as die leeus met nekbande toegerus was, kon vroeŽ waarskuwings uitgestuur word en sou die skade nie so groot wees nie.
    Die kraal waarin die vee gevang is, is 'n gewone kraal wat met draad en houtsparre omhein is. Florry sÍ geen leeu gaan in by die spesiale krale wat teen leeus bestand is, en met hoŽ groen skadunet omhein is nie.
    Die spesiale krale word deur 'n private leeubewaringsorganisasie, Desert Lions Human Relations Aid (Delhra), opgerig. Delhra het al meer as 70 krale in die Kunenestreek opgerig en opgegradeer. Dit voorsien ook sonkragligte met sirenes en bewegingaktiveringstelsels, klappers en hulp aan die gemeenskappe.
    Mnr. Izak Smit van Delhra sÍ "ons waarskuwings en pleidooie val al drie jaar op dowe ore" dat leeus in die Kunenestreek met nekbande toegerus word.
    "Daar word op vroeŽ waarskuwingstelsels gesteun sodat boere gewaarsku kan word as leeus in hul omgewing is," het Smit gesÍ.
    "Die leeus breek nie by die spesiale krale in nie. Hulle soek nou krale wat nie toegemaak is nie."
    Smit sÍ boere gaan nou weer in opstand kom nŠ die voorval van mens-leeu-konflik.
    "Dit is tyd om diegene verantwoordelik tot regverdiging te roep. Dit is die ministerie van die omgewing en toerisme se mandaat," het hy gesÍ.
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    Heard today as well that "Kebbel" (XPL81) is dead, suspected poisoning.
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    Chris Card has just let us know that the website has been updated and is now back on line.
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    Just heard a male, called "gretzky" has been shot last night in the ugab. Sad. No longer vanashing kings, but vanished kings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AboutAfrica View Post
    Just heard a male, called "gretzky" has been shot last night in the ugab. Sad. No longer vanashing kings, but vanished kings.

    Thanks Walter,

    Although bearer of sad news, I wonder when this will be brought under control.
    Seems now that the lions are in the last corner and everyone is free to poison or shoot them at will.
    I see all the conservation efforts in vain, as long as donkeys and goats have a better value for the local community.

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    Once the wild life is go, the tourist will also be gone and then they will know what the impact was but it will be to late. Nobody come to see the donkeys and goats.

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    Back in February and before the rains we thought the ungulate numbers in the wilds were as low as weíd ever seen them. Hopefully theyíll be breeding now but theyíll be well dispersed and difficult for the lions to approach. On the other hand there seems to be be an ever increasing number of cattle so I suppose this is inevitable.
    KS, Iím sure thatís right , if the structure for compensation was solid then perhaps theyíve a chance. Right now that must be open to question as their range seems to be shrinking.
    As you say, very sad

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    When I was at school in Outjo between 1960's an 70 there were no lions south of the Uniab, as it was all commercial farms. Then it became communal land in the late 60s, and the wild life was free for all, till conservation efforts were started with the community. Now there are lions, elephants and rhinos all over the place. Yes there will be conflict, but the numbers are much higher than before. And those people must survive also there, and its also a very arid area, thus numbers will remain limited.
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