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  1. #41

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    Considering buying a trailer cuff.

    Two questions though:

    1. Is it not easy for a thief to simply undo the allen key nut/bolt on the one side?
    2. Is that same allen key nut/bolt not way too weak to hold the trailer in place if it jumped off the tow ball abruptly, or is it designed to be a weak spot so that the trailer detaches form the vehicle preventing a roll-over?
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  2. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kortgat View Post
    Considering buying a trailer cuff.

    Two questions though:

    1. Is it not easy for a thief to simply undo the allen key nut/bolt on the one side?
    2. Is that same allen key nut/bolt not way too weak to hold the trailer in place if it jumped off the tow ball abruptly, or is it designed to be a weak spot so that the trailer detaches form the vehicle preventing a roll-over?

    Hi Kortgat,

    1. it is a 10mm stainless steel nut and bolt that is tig welded together so impossible to undo. The allen key strips when tried.

    2. No, the bolt & nut is pretty strong and I've seen the plates bending with the nut & bolt holding. The rounded shape of the allen key bolt allows for more freedom of movement and play of the Trailer Cuff and trailer coupler when it moves at all funny angles on the tow ball.

    The allen key does theoretically provide an entry point for a 10 mm drill bit in case you lost all your keys or left them at home. By drilling the bolt out (with a fair amount of effort) you will save some money by not having to replace the padlock or the chain I don't know of anybody that have done so yet.

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    When I was sent mine on test, I tried all ways to figure out how to get that nut and bolt off. Hand tools will not do the job. Not even big monkey wrench. I have the skinned knuckles to prove it. I even hit it with a cold chisel and hammer, nothing.
    Lusted for a Landy but the Pajero was sexier and bigger in the right departments, just like my Missus.

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  4. #44

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    When I was sent mine on test, I tried all ways to figure out how to get that nut and bolt off. Hand tools will not do the job. Not even big monkey wrench. I have the skinned knuckles to prove it. I even hit it with a cold chisel and hammer, nothing.
    Hi Stranger,

    I completely forgot about that. Humble apologies.

    Give it a go with some power tools and give us some feedback on that. I will send you a replacement unit

    Thanks,

    Ian

  5. #45

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    Great feedback, thank you. As itís soo strong, that then raises the question around the trailer not being able to detach in a roll-over. Is that an issue or not?
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    2008 Audi A4 B8 2.0 TDI (Multitronic)
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    2012 Imagine Trailvan 4-Sleeper

    * consumption needs to be seen in the context that the vehicle is towing an Imagine Trailvan 30% of the time


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    It's been discussed before but my thoughts are that if the trailer is under 750kg then you may want it to stay attached. Over 750kg and you are going to have a braked trailer and possibly a breakaway cable where it would be better if it did detach.

    I use my trailer cuff for security at home and when the trailer is parked on site, also when I travel. If I had a larger trailer I would be selective as to it's use. Probably not for highway travelling and probably yes for slow off road. Great when the product actually does what it says on the box and you can fit or remove literally in seconds.

    I feel very comfortable when mine has it fitted when parked.
    Lusted for a Landy but the Pajero was sexier and bigger in the right departments, just like my Missus.

    2004 Gen 3. 3.8i petrol V6 (PAJTU)
    X Factor Bundutop trailer (designed by me)
    1998 Blister Fender Pajero 3500 24V (PAJ) (Sold)
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  7. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    It's been discussed before but my thoughts are that if the trailer is under 750kg then you may want it to stay attached. Over 750kg and you are going to have a braked trailer and possibly a breakaway cable where it would be better if it did detach.

    I use my trailer cuff for security at home and when the trailer is parked on site, also when I travel. If I had a larger trailer I would be selective as to it's use. Probably not for highway travelling and probably yes for slow off road. Great when the product actually does what it says on the box and you can fit or remove literally in seconds.

    I feel very comfortable when mine has it fitted when parked.
    Thank you makes sense.
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    2008 Audi A4 B8 2.0 TDI (Multitronic)
    2009 KTM 990 Adventure (Weekend Fun)
    2012 Imagine Trailvan 4-Sleeper

    * consumption needs to be seen in the context that the vehicle is towing an Imagine Trailvan 30% of the time


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    Default Re: Trailer Cuff feedback

    I have one question on the Cuff,Will the Cuff fit on the type of this coupler
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    Last edited by Stranger; 2019/07/15 at 12:02 PM.
    Lusted for a Landy but the Pajero was sexier and bigger in the right departments, just like my Missus.

    2004 Gen 3. 3.8i petrol V6 (PAJTU)
    X Factor Bundutop trailer (designed by me)
    1998 Blister Fender Pajero 3500 24V (PAJ) (Sold)
    BMW R1200R

  10. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic Camp View Post
    I have one question on the Cuff,Will the Cuff fit on the type of this coupler
    I don't see any reason for it not to ... ?

    Regarding the separate issue (while online here and now - so OT, yes.)
    Many folk seem to be concerned about the possibility (real) that the trailer or caravan would not separate from the towing vehicles in an accident situation.

    Some years ago I was towing a (previous) trailer from Pinetown KZN up to Bots and along the Platinum Highway - at that time with my Ford Ranchero - so doing full highway speed.

    One of the heavily loaded trailer wheels seized (no warning). Both the Ranchero and the trailer were heavily loaded since we were on a 3+ week overland trip at the time.

    Thanks to the pendulum (centrifugal force?) effect of the trailer and vehicle spinning across the double highway divider and ending up off-road in a ditch on the other side of the highway (facing back from our direction of travel):

    1. Neither the trailer, nor the Ranchero rolled.
    2. Damage was limited to the trailer hitting both sides of the Ranchero as it swept from side to side - so more than 180 degrees swing I assume?
    3. The Ranchero's tail lights and indicator lights - totally fine - only body damage.
    4. Ranchero needed 4x new rims, Trailer needed new axle, wheels & tyres.

    The point is that neither vehicle rolled or took the other one with it. (rolling, that is)

    I think (my opinion only) that a trailer remaining attached is much safer in these kind of situations than one careering wildly out of control unhitched and most likely involving many or some other vehicles in the process.

    I know that this is a constantly ongoing debate.
    However - I am MUCH happier knowing that my trailer remains connected to my towing vehicle with a trailer cuff than without.
    Answering the call of the wild is just so much beter than answering the telephone.
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    Default Re: Trailer Cuff feedback

    Thank you so much, convinced and ordered one now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustic Camp View Post
    Thank you so much, convinced and ordered one now
    Pleasure, I doubt you will be disappointed. Very decent bit of kit
    Lusted for a Landy but the Pajero was sexier and bigger in the right departments, just like my Missus.

    2004 Gen 3. 3.8i petrol V6 (PAJTU)
    X Factor Bundutop trailer (designed by me)
    1998 Blister Fender Pajero 3500 24V (PAJ) (Sold)
    BMW R1200R

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
    Pleasure, I doubt you will be disappointed. Very decent bit of kit
    +1
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    Hmm, the locks aren't really that tough, this one got pinched when I did a sharp turn with the Boskriek, and now can't unlock.

    My angle grinder got stolen by the builders, so how to remove the lock is now another problem.

    Guess that I will have to start searching for another lock that is suitable for this application, maybe with a solid brass body. Any suggestions ?

    BTW, I have noticed that Yale locks are very vulnerable to jamming from dust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jola View Post
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    Hmm, the locks aren't really that tough, this one got pinched when I did a sharp turn with the Boskriek, and now can't unlock.

    My angle grinder got stolen by the builders, so how to remove the lock is now another problem.

    Guess that I will have to start searching for another lock that is suitable for this application, maybe with a solid brass body. Any suggestions ?

    BTW, I have noticed that Yale locks are very vulnerable to jamming from dust.
    Hmm, I managed to remove the lock, but now need a replacement.

    I need something with a stronger body than the "Master Lock" that the Trailer Cuff comes with.

    Any ideas ?
    Discovery 1 1996 V8i (Sold, owned for 20 years); Freelander 2 2013 SD4 SE; Discovery 4 2014 SDV6 SE; Bushlapa Boskriek


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jola View Post
    Hmm, I managed to remove the lock, but now need a replacement.

    I need something with a stronger body than the "Master Lock" that the Trailer Cuff comes with.

    Any ideas ?
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    Thanks Dieter and Strange, I will be getting my new Metalian trailer in two weeks and was wondering about the security and I came across this thread. Strange my Bundu roof top tent will be move from the roof of the Touareg to the trailer.Cheers you guysDoug
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    Default Re: Trailer Cuff feedback

    If I remember correctly is there a commercial member on this forum that supplies the trailer cuff??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    If I remember correctly is there a commercial member on this forum that supplies the trailer cuff??

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    Default Re: Trailer Cuff feedback

    I would love to know what the force was on that lock. I think the strength of that lock lies in the shackle, to protect against cutting, rather than in the body.

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    Hmm, the locks aren't really that tough, this one got pinched when I did a sharp turn with the Boskriek, and now can't unlock.

    My angle grinder got stolen by the builders, so how to remove the lock is now another problem.

    Guess that I will have to start searching for another lock that is suitable for this application, maybe with a solid brass body. Any suggestions ?

    BTW, I have noticed that Yale locks are very vulnerable to jamming from dust.

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