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    Hi y’all
    My son is 14 years old and want to get into making knives, or more so he is obsessed with knives, he has watched all the YouTube videos of different knive “testers”. Dutch Bushkraft Knives being his favorite. I would like to encourage him in this but looking for some advice and guidance from you guys. Also what is a good steel to start with? I have the tools that I think we need to start with fixed blades. Thanks

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    Get him to make a hunting knife first, with a file. Get any knife steel 440 etc, it wont make a difference on his first knife. It will look something like this.
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    Een van my vriende het ‘n kursus by Thinus Herbst in Pta geloop. Hy maak nou messe as stokperdjie en sę dat sonder hul insig en “inside tips” sou hy nie reggekom het nie. Weet dis baie ver van julle af, dalk is daar iemand nader.

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    I started making my first knife yesterday. Old file.

    Will post more in the morning.
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    Contact the Cape Knifemakers Guild http://capeknifemakersguild.com/?page_id=9

    Or see Piet in Mossel Bay from:https://www.gardenrouteblades.co.za/
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    Hi, I too did the weekend with Thinus, a brilliant weekend and a great start. KMTS deliver all sorts of bits and pieces for the knife maker, from pressed out blanks to handle material. You don't need a great deal to get started. This weekend my son also 14 in gr 8 joined me for the first time and made a small hatchet out of a small ball pean hammer.
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    Plenty of YouTube videoa on how to make knives - I have done a couple watching videos.
    Start with an old file - I mean vintage old, as the steel was different from New files, new ones have a higher carbon content, harder to work.
    File needs to be annealed to soften it - I did this in a fire - very hot, leave it to cool completely in the ash.
    Make a filing station - clamp the knife and holds the file at the correct angles to file the edge.
    Make the handle
    Harden the blank in a fire to non-magnetic stage and temper in an oven.
    Polish
    Assemble & rivet handle.
    Polish handle

    I can post pics of the filing station tomorrow if you are interested?


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    @ClimbingTurtle

    This weekend I did exactly that. Old file ... annealed in a plain wood fire with some help from the compressor. No problem. Took only a few minutes to pass the magnet test. Let it cool down in the ash.



    It was easy to work with the grinder and belt sander. This is where I ended. Still needs some finishing and Hardening and Temper. It will not get a wooden handle. I like the look of the file.

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    Hey Guys

    I started this journey about 2 years ago - It easy to start.

    First, check out out Neels from Black Dragon Forge www.blackdragonforge.co.za and his youtube channel. Amazing guy and so happy to share his knowledge with you. Then book a day or two day course with him.

    Once you learning the basics, its only practise that makes you better. Also check out Walter Sorrel on youtube.

    Hardest part is getting access to a forge and anvil, but you could also start out with basic stock removal to make an excellent knife.

    Let me know if you have anymore questions

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    Hi Emile,

    I was very much like your son at that age - obsessed with knives and blades and the craft of making them. While there are lots of useful 'how to' videos available online, nothing beats learning while doing, with guidance from a bladesmith. Have a look at the Knifemaker's Guild of SA: http://www.kgsa.co.za/
    - they have info about courses offered. He'll be able to learn a huge amount through them about the skills that go into knifemaking and what equipment he'll need.

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    least tools would be something like this :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_vC_B0BMm8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V91Btmi7oNU

    a kitchen cleaver for Mom would be nice.

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    Maybe father xmas will send him on a course
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    Thanks guys, we will start with a file this weekend, and we will watch some YouTube videos this week. There is a guy who does courses here in George (French handmade knives) his surname is French and maybe father christmas 🎅 will send him on a course. I will browse all the different guildts websites for more info.
    BTW what you is the magnet test?

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    I do have an big old anvil that we will use once we start heating and treating

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    Quote Originally Posted by emileheyns View Post
    Thanks guys, we will start with a file this weekend, and we will watch some YouTube videos this week. There is a guy who does courses here in George (French handmade knives) his surname is French and maybe father christmas �� will send him on a course. I will browse all the different guildts websites for more info.
    BTW what you is the magnet test?
    When steel loses it's magnetism it is hot enough to have lost its hardness/temper and also hot enough to temper again. It is a rough guide. Or something like that.
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    Emile. Ou kar vere maak fantastiese messe. Maak die veer rooi warm en laat self afkoel. Maak hom plat en begin met die vorm van die mes.
    Ou veile maak baie mooi messe maar jy is gebind aan die grootte en vorm van die veil. Die ander probleem kom met die hardmaak van die lem. Wanneer 'n veil hardgemaak is en die temper is verkeerd, dan breek hy vir niks.
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    Get a few scrap leaf spring blades from a scrap yard. That is what the kukri knife is made from.

    To the blade Smith's,what oil do you use to quench the blade to get it hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    Get a few scrap leaf spring blades from a scrap yard. That is what the kukri knife is made from.

    To the blade Smith's,what oil do you use to quench the blade to get it hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platjan View Post
    Een van my vriende het ‘n kursus by Thinus Herbst in Pta geloop. Hy maak nou messe as stokperdjie en sę dat sonder hul insig en “inside tips” sou hy nie reggekom het nie. Weet dis baie ver van julle af, dalk is daar iemand nader.

    Hul webwerf: http://www.herbst.co.za/index.php
    e-book oor Fixd-blede http://www.herbst.co.za/index.php/sh...e-knife-making
    Ek het ook die "Tinus Herbst" kursus gedoen. My vrou het die kusus vir my gekoop vir my verjaarsdag so 'n paar jaar gelede. Strek oor twee dae, 'n volle Vrydag en so driekwart van 'n Saterdag. Ons was so 8 manne wat die kursus gedoen het en ons het knipmesse gemaak. wat 'n ondervinding. Ek sal dit met gemak vir enigeen kan aanbeveel.
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