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    RTT nocturnal needs - no solution for Swambo's night time urgent matters except accompanied down the ladder even at Deception Pan

    For the manne - an ( empty ) bottle of StaSoft - your choice as to whether large or small ( bottle that is ) Has worked for years though you do need to be under five foot eight to kneel inside the RTT and have a strut to hang on to depending on the percentage proof of your late night intake .

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    My wife of 67 has no problem with the RTT ladder. She is reluctant slip in a ground tent with all the lions around, so an RTT is the only option for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralton View Post
    I'm looking for comments on your wife's ability/anxiety/willingness to climbing up and down a rooftop tent ladder?
    Especially those with wives in their late 50's, early 60s.

    I'm looking to purchase a rooftop tent but would like an idea on the suitability of these with SWAMBO...

    I am 66 yrs old (wife) and my husband is 75 yrs old. We have done a month long trip up to Serengetti from Durban (KZN) SA as well as a few trips to Botswana's Central Kalahari and Kalagadi and numerous local weekends away in our African Outback Rooftop tent. Never been an issue for either of us, but then we are pretty agile and fit so it does make a huge difference.

    A huge rule is to ensure you hold on when ascending / descending. My husband built a platform over the cab so when we climb up or get out especially in the mornings we stand on the platform before climbing down.

    Anything to do with camping is of personal preference - if it works for you go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralton View Post
    I'm looking for comments on your wife's ability/anxiety/willingness to climbing up and down a rooftop tent ladder?
    Especially those with wives in their late 50's, early 60s.

    I'm looking to purchase a rooftop tent but would like an idea on the suitability of these with SWAMBO...
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    We decided not to climb a ladder any more.
    The up is not a big issue 1 O'clock in the morning.
    Getting down is the issue and we have missed the bottom step a few times.

    Thus now either ground tent or off road caravan.
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    Our RTT ladder attached to the top of our bullbar, which created a nice "platform", at the same height of the bonnet, handy for leaving the shoes there for example.

    The bull bar also had convenient cross bars for stepping up - I know some bull bars would not work. The biggest step was unto the main lower bull bar section. If this had become an issue somewhere in the future, we could have placed a small step there, as used by the caravanners.

    The most "dangerous" part for us for climbing down was at the top, where we had to grab hold of the RTT floor before getting onto the ladder. I considered fitting some grab handles here sometime but never got that far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ralton View Post
    I'm looking for comments on your wife's ability/anxiety/willingness to climbing up and down a rooftop tent ladder?
    Especially those with wives in their late 50's, early 60s.

    I'm looking to purchase a rooftop tent but would like an idea on the suitability of these with SWAMBO...
    Hello Ralton, I have a Defender 110 with an Alu Cab clamshell tent on top. The unit is fairly high off the ground and my wife and I do not have a problem climbing the ladder to get into the tent. I am 75 and my wife is now 70, we will keep on climbing until the wheels fall off one day.

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    I am touching 60 and wife ... well never ask a woman's age lets just say she is not far behind and neither of us have any issues with climbing a ladder. I have often heard folks complain that a bad back prevents them from climbing on to a trailer top bed never mind a roof top, Jen has broken her back and suffers from osteo and as long as she does not try to climb down after taking her meds she is 110% capable of climbing the ladder.

    The question of wee hours of the morning.. same goes for trailer top and ground tent, if there are lions outside they are going to have a great shower. Probably the best advice was from Stan in limiting fluid intake before bed time, it works. Have a few drinks too many and the fall will be further with a roof top so that is some valid inspiration to stay sober

    I have a roof topper as well as a Mini and a Maxi and each of them has its place and time. For touring and one nighters nothing beats a roof topper while stays for longer in a central base camp the mini does better. The maxi is up for rental, too big for two people especially two lazy campers. A caravan is a good all rounder but it also comes with the heavy towing penalty. At the moment I am looking at options to upgrade to the solid shell roof toppers as the daily folding up and securing of the tent can be a pita. This looks like a great option to me http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/...20#post3670020

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    Each tent to its own. We own dome tents and RTT. Did the Caravan thing till last year when I sold the Xplorer.

    Love the RTT for quick outings and tours. With the youngest kid leaving the house I am changing camping style. My dream is a fully kitted 79 Cruiser. Thinking of building my own canopy or buy same sort of Abba type camper.

    The idea is to be able to set up camp in a few minutes. Open the Ostrich wing, put down the ground sheet, grab two chairs and have a Glass of Whiskey in a few seconds. When bed time calls have a nice onboard shower and hop into bed. Now if it can have an onboard toilet that would be nice.
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    Most of the RTT comments coming from couples without kids. I want to go the RTT route but with a family size RTT I have no space for Jerry cans etc on the roof rack and almost no packing space in the vehicle with a fridge/freezer in the back of aSUV. How do your guys with a family of 4 manage your packing space with a SUV? I suppose I've got the wrong vehicle for what I want to do..... I need a cruiser d/c.

    Other option is to go the savuti venter type trailer with Family RTT on top.
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    We traveled with 2 x ground tents, casibo, 4 chairs, table and 4 adults in our 2.5 Ranger DC.
    Supplies for 14 days, 2 x 20l diesel, 70l fridge freezer and 2 x cases of beer.
    One cooler box with ice on the back seat and a thermal cooler in the back
    Barely fitted all into the canopy, decided not to have a roof rack.

    Must say we packed and repacked twice to get all in before the trip.

    We sold our road caravan after this trip.
    So once bitten we stayed with a ground tent.

    Moved to TTT on the Echo.
    Climbing up an down for many years and no issue.
    Only recently starting to find nightly up and down a bit difficult.

    Thus we are moving to off road caravan as small and compact as possible.
    Loaded it will not exceed the max weight of the Echo 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois111 View Post
    Most of the RTT comments coming from couples without kids. I want to go the RTT route but with a family size RTT I have no space for Jerry cans etc on the roof rack and almost no packing space in the vehicle with a fridge/freezer in the back of aSUV. How do your guys with a family of 4 manage your packing space with a SUV? I suppose I've got the wrong vehicle for what I want to do..... I need a cruiser d/c.

    Other option is to go the savuti venter type trailer with Family RTT on top.
    Francois,
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    Used larger dome tent; Aus tent; Rooftop and Dome; 2 Rooftops; 2 Rooftops and Aus tent.
    in the back has always been a 70L fridge and home made drawers. Amongst other also 4 chairs, a table and 4 seater table, 20 to 40 liter water, other than more drinking water....
    I think the key for making it possible to camp with a family of 4 in a SUV/Wagon is a well thought storage system.
    Not a fancy who made what system. Rather something build for your needs and maximising space useage....
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    Will try my best....going to Kaa area and Kgalagadi next year Arpil need to sort my packing space very quickly. At the moment I am like a afkop hoender weet nie waar om te vat en te los nie. Wil nie graag weer die waentjie karavaan roete gaan nie.
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    This is one of the best discussions that I have followed in a while. Really good input and advise. Our kids are now basically out of the house and I'm busy planning how to kit out my Land Cruiser 100 VX. It has been stock standard since I got it. I'm a keep bush camper but had very limited time to do so over the years. Up to now it has been in canvas dome tents. One is limited to school holidays and you plan around the needs for the kids in most cases. When they were smaller we caravanned for many years but it was mainly setup for a week or 3 at the same place. We could kit out with most of the conveniences.

    My wife enjoys camping but has a small hate of weekend trips because she says it is more work than fun. So we have never done so (even in then caravan). So all my planning is now build around making sure the setup and breakdown is minimal time, and as convenient living as possible. Best would be if we can arrive and she can sit while I quickly make camp. I've looked at trailers and they are really nice but expensive and I'm not keen on towing into heavy sand and rough terrain.

    The "clam shell" type RTT's is for me a great solution. After all the positive comments here I have basically made up my mind. Most seem to have worked out ways to deal with what looks like to be 3 negatives, the ladder, getting dressed and night time loo trips. What was really positive to see is that how many older people had positive experiences.

    I have great experience with a ostrich wing type awning. For me this, in combination with a RTT is the way to go.

    Thanks everyone.

    The one aspect of a RTT that no one is talking about is the additional height to the car. You will need a special height garage and door. For some lower vehicles it might be fine but most 4x4's will have difficulty. Now this might not hassle the wife but now she will have one more thing to complain about on all the extra money that this 4x4 thing cost us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spruceddingi View Post
    My SWAMBO is very much the clumbsy one, she was not over eager to climb up and battled to get down. What I did manage to realize was to try increase the angle of the ladder a tad more even 2 degrees flatter helped her plenty.

    Also been looking into possible solutions came across this auntie, havnt tried it yet but the coggs are turning.

    Will be following this thread. Thanks
    Spruceddingi, that looks like a great solution, where can I get hold of this?

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    Interestinng conversation. We love our RTT. After some mods even more. What I did not like with RTT's was the crappy covers that just kind of fit. Had one made with a zip all around, sized it so it would still close with bedding inside and that the form of the ladder was exact. Added a few rubber bands to ensure that I did not have to sukkel with bits and pieces hanging out when closing.
    Now it is simple. Close and zip around. I have compared times of setup and takedown with a friend owning a bundutop (lektries nochal). I took 18sec longer.
    All the other issues such as
    Fuel consumption - using a RTT vs trailer I think the difference is neglectable
    Mobility - RTT way faster. SWAMBO ist very soos in mega organised. Camp is up in 5 mins. Camp is down in 5 mins.
    Up and down - As mentioned by someone -use plakkies
    Dressing - So who is interested in seing a white bum dress undress downstairs
    Toilet - pressure rises at about 5:30. Time to get up anyway
    Animals - better than ground exept when ellies are around. Sounds like an electrolux coming to clean the tent.
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    Ok, a tiny bit off topic, but we sat around and debated the old mans tale of having a nightcap. Many stories and jokes later and a tiny bit of scientific truth came out. Alcohol is a diuretic, which means it makes you pee. So if you have a nightcap and then have that last pee before you go to bed you may be less hydrated. I have practised this for many years and rarely do I have to get up during the night, although first thing in the morning, I am ready.

    A Christian friend of mine told me that Jesus turned water into wine and fed the 5000. He says that he is the opposite, he has one glass of wine and can top up the dead sea.

    This is my story and I am sticking to it. That last whisky always seems to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeOShea View Post
    RTT nocturnal needs - no solution for Swambo's night time urgent matters except accompanied down the ladder even at Deception Pan

    For the manne - an ( empty ) bottle of StaSoft - your choice as to whether large or small ( bottle that is ) Has worked for years though you do need to be under five foot eight to kneel inside the RTT and have a strut to hang on to depending on the percentage proof of your late night intake .
    StaSoft? Ag nee man!
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    Eazy Awn se tart hardshell gaan ek bekyk lyk na n puik RTT asook hulle 270 bat awning kan nie meer wag vir die off gritt afontuur nie jip jippie

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    Few years ago i had a echo 3 with RTT. Swambo got sick the one night, and it was up and down the ladder. After the 2nd time, she stayed at the bottom and slept in a chair. A also have to add that it is not the easiest to get a tennis ball up and down a ladder, especial if it has vertigo, and stopping it from falling of a RTT is a constant concern. Needless to say, that was the last of a RTT.
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