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    Pitty we don't get the tsi or electric UP here.

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    Wow, the Sandero is long (4072mm). Sorry for the oversight Johan
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    They're funky and quick but I couldn't live with that ride on a daily basis.

    I'm getting old...

    I want a Panda 4x4, it's so cute
    Perhaps the 500 is the right car for you
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    What about that new suzuki ignis.Its a tiny suv but actually spacious inside
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    What about that new suzuki ignis.Its a tiny suv but actually spacious inside
    It also has 170mm clearance, so the farm road should be a breeze.
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    That Ignis is selling fast. I recommend at least a test drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    What about that new suzuki ignis.Its a tiny suv but actually spacious inside
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    It also has 170mm clearance, so the farm road should be a breeze.
    They look nice but they're a bit tinny and very lightweight. Also no ESP in our market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    What about that new suzuki ignis.Its a tiny suv but actually spacious inside
    Nice little car that, also only three stars safety rating but at least gets 79% compared to the Fiat 500's woeful 66%!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenhorn View Post
    Pitty we don't get the tsi or electric UP here.
    If VW put the latest 1.0 Tsi motor in the Up, that would fix my only criticism against it.

    Why they're not offering is a mystery, even the Golf 7 has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtG View Post
    Wow, the Sandero is long (4072mm). Sorry for the oversight Johan
    My TJ used to park there. But having steel bumpers, I just glued a piece of carpet to the wall so could push the nose right up against it.

    Something with a plastic bumper might not enjoy that on a regular basis.

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    I see plenty of these on offer, but all with the vegan 1.2 motor. And none new.

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...ource=whatsapp

    If the Panda has been discontinued locally, I don't have much hope that we'll see the 4x4 version here.

    They probably feel it will steal sales from the Renegade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    I see plenty of these on offer, but all with the vegan 1.2 motor. And none new.

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-cars-bak...ource=whatsapp

    If the Panda has been discontinued locally, I don't have much hope that we'll see the 4x4 version here.

    They probably feel it will steal sales from the Renegade.
    That would make sense, but then again the Panda 4x4 and Renegade are bought by completely different sets of people with different sets of lifestyles. The 4x4 Panda'd do extremely well here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    I've decided to look at getting a small car to use for errands and to work and back. Driving the JKU daily is lovely but it's racking up mileage like crazy and it uses a lot of fuel. It's also a problem to park here in crowded Sea Point.
    Also, while I have to use the Jeep as a daily driver, modding it is quite impractical. Fitting a lift and 33's is not going to make it any easier to live with on a daily basis.

    So, here's the specs of what I need:


    • Budget is R200K to R250K, no more.
    • MUST be less than 4m long. My second parking spot is exactly 4 metres, any longer and it won't fit.
    • MUST obviously be light on fuel, 5L/100km or less
    • Can be auto or manual, I don't really mind.
    • MUST be able to seat 4 occasionally OR 2 and a decent amount of cargo.
    • I prefer petrol over diesel
    • MUST have ABS, ESP & airbags
    • MUST be new or nearly new with lots of warranty and a service plan.
    • Must have aircon and electric windows and a sound system
    • Needs to be able to do long distances
    • Must have decent performance, less than 12 seconds to 100km/h


    So far, the best choice I can think of off the top my head is a new Fiat 500. They're certainly cute and a nice little red one will go great with my Italian restaurant theme...

    Any other suggestions?
    Apart from the 12 second thing (marginally slower) I can't think of a better option than a VW Cross Polo. Feels very premium and looks awesome.

    But if you have an Italian restaurant the 500 is a no brainer.
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    Interestingly enough, the Panda has partly been developed by Steyr Puch. The guys who brought us the Gelandewagen (sold as a Puch overseas).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanSlabbert View Post
    They look nice but they're a bit tinny and very lightweight. Also no ESP in our market.
    I test drove one on Friday and I was surprised by its performance. It actually felt solid in there but you are right with the light weight. Also comfortable for a big guy like me. That 1.2l motor gets it going in a decent amount of time - lot faster than my Jimny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    The Germans still seem to be favourites. MB and VW/Seat/Audi very popular. Even Jags
    That's completely opposite to what I thought. Interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew5336 View Post
    Apart from the 12 second thing (marginally slower) I can't think of a better option than a VW Cross Polo.
    Starting from R284,000?
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    So the VW Cross Up! (Weird name for a car...)

    R197K out the box brand new

    The good:

    Lot's of standard spec


    • Air conditioning system
    • Interior ambient lighting
    • radio "composition phone"
    • 4 doors, hinged rear side windows
    • Chrome molding on the tailgate
    • Customized installation
    • Left/right vent bezels and controls for radio and HVAC painted in chrome
    • 2 head restraints in rear, lowerable
    • Carpet mats in front and rear
    • Dash pad "cross"
    • Electromechanical power steering
    • Gearshift knob in leather
    • Hand brake lever handle in leather, hand brake lever button in chrome
    • Interior door handle in chrome
    • Leather-wrapped multi-function steering wheel
    • light gray headliner
    • Luggage compartment cover
    • Luggage compartment floor adjustable in 2 heights and removable
    • Manual height adjustment for right front seat
    • Standard floor covering
    • Unsplit rear bench seat, 2 seats, asymmetric split folding backrest
    • Without seat heater
    • 2 speakers
    • Radio "Composition Phone"
    • USB interface
    • 3-point seat belt for outer rear seats
    • Airbag for driver and front passenger
    • Combined curtain and side airbags in front
    • Electronic Stability Control with Hill Start Assist, ABS, ASR, EBD, and EDTC
    • Exterior mirrors power-adjustable and heated
    • Front fog lamps and cornering light
    • Halogen headlamps and turn signals under one clear lens with LED separate daytime running light
    • Separate daytime running light
    • 4 alloy wheels "Kalamata" 6J x 16
    • Black protective side molding with "cross up!" nameplate
    • Bumpers in sports style, three colors, chrome trim for front fog lamps
    • Exterior mirror housings painted in light silver
    • Roof rails, silver-anodized
    • Steel spare wheel 5J x 14, for 15-inch, 16-inch and 17-inch wheels and for models with start-stop system
    • Tailpipe left
    • Tool kit and jack
    • Central locking system without SAFELOCK, incl. radio remote control
    • Instrument cluster, km/h speedometer
    • Multi-function display "Plus"
    • Power windows in front
    • Smoker's package - cigarette lighter and removable ashtray in front
    • Tire Pressure Monitoring System
    • Chassis with ground clearance increased by about 15 mm
    • Rough-road version
    • Two-tone horn



    The bad:

    Puny 55kW & 95Nm motor.

    Add some desirable options and it gets pricey

    • Any other color than white: R1000
    • Navigation & touch screen radio: R5700
    • 6 speakers instead of 2: R1000
    • Cruise control & park distance control (cannot be ordered separately) : R4300
    • Winter pack (heated front seats and fog lights) : R1200


    So for R210K you have a highly specced well made runabout that can do some gravel but is a bit slow.

    The ugly:

    There's NO SERVICE PLAN...

    I need to find out what a service plan will cost VS paying for services myself.
    Last edited by Johan Slabbert; 2017/07/27 at 04:49 PM.

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    ignore this
    Last edited by Johan Slabbert; 2017/07/27 at 04:40 PM.

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    This is the typical load I take in the back on a daily basis.

    2 baskets of restaurant linens and 5 or so boxes of booze.

    It would be nice if I didn't have to fold down the back seats every time...


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