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    Default Hilux recovery points

    Gents, Ladies,

    Just got me my very own Hilux.
    2017, 2.8 GD-6 4x4 Raider

    Question is concerning recovery points.

    Rear:
    The Hilux does not seem to have rear recovery points.
    I do have a detachable tow-hook, and am considering getting a fitting such as this: http://www.bushranger.com.au/hitch_r...ry_hitch_4.jpg
    Are there other solutions/recommendations?

    Front:
    It does seem to have front points, but the owner's manual specifies these as "towing points to be used on had surfaces only"
    Any advice as to installation of real good recovery points to the front?

    Image of the tow hook fitting, in case the link doesn't work:
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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Just discovered the lack of Hilux rear recovery points when extracting a family stuck in mud at a river crossing in Hluhluwe park, also had just bought the vehicle, hard to believe?
    Also looking for suggestions.

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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Where can you get this? I have been looking for one for a long time
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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Where can you get this? I have been looking for one for a long time
    I got one from my local 4x4 equipment supplier. Its an IRONMAN one.

    Also available on their website.

    http://www.ironman4x4south.co.za/ind...overy-hardware
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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Quote Originally Posted by Hann1976 View Post
    Gents, Ladies,

    Just got me my very own Hilux.
    2017, 2.8 GD-6 4x4 Raider

    Question is concerning recovery points.

    Rear:
    The Hilux does not seem to have rear recovery points.
    I do have a detachable tow-hook, and am considering getting a fitting such as this: http://www.bushranger.com.au/hitch_r...ry_hitch_4.jpg
    Are there other solutions/recommendations?

    Front:
    It does seem to have front points, but the owner's manual specifies these as "towing points to be used on had surfaces only"
    Any advice as to installation of real good recovery points to the front?

    Image of the tow hook fitting, in case the link doesn't work:
    Click image for larger version. 

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    1st Outdoor & 4x4 in Stikland list those on their site for R650: http://www.1stoutdoor4x4.co.za/ironm...-receiver.html

    Around the corner from them is Burnco. Speak to Oom Hein, I'm sure he can make something for you and securely attach it to the chassis in front.

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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    I have one of those Bushranger recovery attachments. Providing your Towbar is up to the task, you do not need more than that for the rear.
    Check for something like this one from Ironman
    http://www.ironman4x4.com/products/r...ecovery-points
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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Hopefully by now you have been able to resolve this?
    I need to 2 front recovery points but don't know which ones to buy.
    I have a 2018 GD6.
    EBay shows this for AUD79:
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    The more expensive one states 2015 onwards, the cheaper one states 2005 - 2015. Did the mounting points for recovery points change between 2005 - 2015 and 2015 - current? Or is this just a sales thing to get you to buy the more expensive one?
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    Just some silly question. Are they rated. If rated can the manufacturer supply you with a test certificate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavyG View Post
    1st Outdoor & 4x4 in Stikland list those on their site for R650: http://www.1stoutdoor4x4.co.za/ironm...-receiver.html

    Around the corner from them is Burnco. Speak to Oom Hein, I'm sure he can make something for you and securely attach it to the chassis in front.
    Hein installed my rear burnco bumper. The Ironman hitch fitted but the hole through the hitch was too small for the pin Burnco used. I just had it machined slightly larger and it works fine. Hein confirmed though that you can just use the pin and the Ironman Hitch wasnt required.

    For the front i had 4xLux install 2 Recovery hooks from 4x4Direct to the chassis (https://www.4x4direct.co.za/recovery...ook-black.html).

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    Rated 10,000 lbs
    Comes with high tensile bolts.
    Last edited by Walnut; 2019/02/12 at 11:50 AM.

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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    Quote Originally Posted by Hann1976 View Post
    Gents, Ladies,

    Just got me my very own Hilux.
    2017, 2.8 GD-6 4x4 Raider

    Question is concerning recovery points.

    Rear:
    The Hilux does not seem to have rear recovery points.
    I do have a detachable tow-hook, and am considering getting a fitting such as this: http://www.bushranger.com.au/hitch_r...ry_hitch_4.jpg
    Are there other solutions/recommendations?

    Front:
    It does seem to have front points, but the owner's manual specifies these as "towing points to be used on had surfaces only"
    Any advice as to installation of real good recovery points to the front?


    Image of the tow hook fitting, in case the link doesn't work:
    Those are not recovery points. Do not use them. They are as described, tow hooks. If you snatch from them they will break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walnut View Post
    Those are not recovery points. Do not use them. They are as described, tow hooks. If you snatch from them they will break.
    Agreed. I broke one clean off when it pushed against a rock while winching forward, it doesn't take a lot. They are hard and brittle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Just some silly question. Are they rated. If rated can the manufacturer supply you with a test certificate?
    What do you mean by rated?

    I see these are Oz parts, as a RPEQ I “rate” these type of components all the time for lifting applications, as in a supply the certificate, the risk assessment and the required quality control. Under most standards the hook is not tagged like the shackles and slings would be, but should have had a test pull. Fall arrest points are different. The factors of safety are also massively different. As such the point can only be tested once it’s installed on your vehicle, as such the majority of the onus for “rating” would fall on the installation facility.

    Anyway that’s how I would see it with my knowledge of lifting equipment. What’s your point of view?

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    Bruce I do agree that the Installation can be flawed. My line of thinking were that there should have been a test mule and bumpers plus recovery points designed by an engineer.

    This is the only way I can see it as being rated. If I am correct Bosal can supply certificates for the tow rating of their tow bars. Would like to see something similar for offroad bumpers and recovery points.
    Last edited by grips; 2019/02/14 at 05:45 PM.
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    Grips I here you, hence my question.

    All tow bars supplied into Oz are, there’s a standard to which they need to comply (obviously its Oz). My first 8 months here I spent half my time certifying this type of thing. My biggest concern would actually be the chassis attachment. Look at those points in the post you replied to. 8mm plate? with what 12mm plate? Let’s say they’re made in Australia, so 350MPa plate. Bolted to what? Say 3mm at a push Domex 400MPa?

    Last time I commented on using a “rated” tow bar to do recoveries with some real numbers I was told I’m an idiot and that the stuff made at home was better because it was welded with MIG. Also that snatch straps were rated to 8t and that they broke. So for a properly rated attachment point I should design to let’s say 8t WLL. Safety factor of 2 is typical for small lift points like that for the pull test. So who’s going to volunteer their car while I put 16t into the chassis?

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    I have think it over many times. I think the advanced rigging courses I have done many moons ago of more value to me than any recovery training I have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceB View Post
    What do you mean by rated?

    I see these are Oz parts, as a RPEQ I “rate” these type of components all the time for lifting applications, as in a supply the certificate, the risk assessment and the required quality control. Under most standards the hook is not tagged like the shackles and slings would be, but should have had a test pull. Fall arrest points are different. The factors of safety are also massively different. As such the point can only be tested once it’s installed on your vehicle, as such the majority of the onus for “rating” would fall on the installation facility.

    Anyway that’s how I would see it with my knowledge of lifting equipment. What’s your point of view?
    I am very concerned about the installation of Bumpers and recovery points. Mentioned it in some other posts about the bash plate with its recovery points I bought for the 79 Cruiser. Kid comes with two crucial bolts missing.
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    Check out Ronny Dahls video where they rip off a steel bumper, the bolts dont giveaway, the actual steel of the bumper rips.

    Skip to 6:05 to see the bumper rip off:


    Very good watch as most people assume that there steel bumpers are indestructible. Dunno about other recovery points etc but my recovery hooks are attached beneath the bumper straight to the chassis.
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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    I think its quite crazy that there are no rated recovery points coming out as standard on 4x4 vehicle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A1ex View Post
    I think its quite crazy that there are no rated recovery points coming out as standard on 4x4 vehicle!
    Manufacturers will not do anything that might get them a law suit.

    They only do just enough to sell and make cars

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    Default Re: Hilux recovery points

    I know this is a different configuration but what is the view of this as a recovery point?
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