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    Dear all,

    I have been quietly reading your forum for the past month, and decided it was time for me to enter the conversation and ask for some advice.

    In September, I'll be moving to Johannesburg and will need to acquire a car.
    I'm a young guy (23) with little (read: no) experience buying used cars, let alone knowing what car to have in South Africa.

    Do you have good ideas for cars I should be considering, based on the following criteria?
    • Max budget of ZAR 200k
    • Used as daily drive in Johannesburg (Probably ~20km of driving per day)
    • Capable of doing infrequent (once or twice a year) long road trips to Zambia etc. (very rarely, if ever, doing serious off-roading/bouldering)
    • Low maintenance costs (my job will keep me very busy, so I don't want to stress about a broken down car)


    My girlfriend (and I) has a soft spot for the Jeep Wrangler, but they seem quite expensive relative to other vehicles I'm finding online. I'm also questioning whether I should really get a 4x4 given the infrequent need I will have for its capabilities, or whether I should go with a more urban car (tons of low mileage Audis and BMWs in my price-range).

    Your expert opinions are very welcome. Please shoot down all my ideas, and change my mind

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    Default Re: Advice on first car in SA

    Forget a Wrangler, a Duster will give you the most bang for your buck!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    2.5 d4d Hilux.
    He's 23.
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    There is a good reason why BMW and Audi's are reasonably priced- other than expensive maintenance they are high risk vehicle when it comes to hijacking along with some other brands ( some will dispute this but the stats are our there)

    I would suggest a 4x4 Renault duster or Subaru forester non turbo.

    seeing your age and location, anything with a bit of performance will cost you more on insurance premiums


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    Default Re: Advice on first car in SA

    Get a Suzuki Jimny. VERY reliable, Low mileage ones for under R200k. Its a decent 4x4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    He's 23.
    Economical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henris View Post
    Economical
    Reliable
    Capable
    Zim
    Zam
    And hellishly boring He is looking at Jeeps for goodness sake

    Agree with Jimny/Duster. Duster more comfortable, Jimny more capable of roughing it
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    Plenty to choose from in 200k budget with reasonable mileage

    http://www.autotrader.co.za/makemode...ice/asc/search


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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol View Post
    There is a good reason why BMW and Audi's are reasonably priced- other than expensive maintenance they are high risk vehicle when it comes to hijacking along with some other brands ( some will dispute this but the stats are our there)

    I would suggest a 4x4 Renault duster or Subaru forester non turbo.

    seeing your age and location, anything with a bit of performance will cost you more on insurance premiums
    From personal experience, I have to disagree with you 100%. BMW's for some odd reason are classified as high maintenance, though I have found them to be no more expensive than any other brand, like FORD, Toyota, even Kia.
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    always buy 2nd hand if its your first car

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    The Jimny's are magic little vehicles, nice city run around, relatively cheap to maintain an brilliant offroad (I took mine to Nxai pans), if it's just you and your then the size will be fine.

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    Suzuki Jimny
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    Since I read the GV thread and miss mine..

    Get a Grand Vitara for around 200k

    Japanese reliability and real 4x4 with LR for when you need it.

    If you only do 20k a day rather a petrol like the GV than a Diesel second hand

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    Hi,

    Assuming you're foreign and have no friends or family here as yet, I would recommend you get yourself a new car, something like a Hyundai i20 or similar, I know, how boring, but, with being in a new country, all by yourself, you wont have built up a support structure around you, so if you have a breakdown, or the car needs to go in for repairs etc, whos going to help you? Get something brand new to limit that risk of things going wrong.

    For the once a year Zambia trip, rent a 4x4 and have that support backing you up.
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    Gents, just keep in mind that once he goes into Zim and Zam, he can't control the quality of that diesel.

    Yes he can add a UDF filter, but if there is paraffin in that fuel, the piso injectors are not going to like it, one bit.
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    I would look for a Nissan NP300 2.5tdi Double cab. I've seen some on carfind for below R200k with fairly low mileage. I would not go the Wrangler route for the simple reason that they are expensive to run. They are heavy on fuel and I am sure out of service plan they won't be cheap to service.
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    Default Re: Advice on first car in SA

    It seems a lot of forum members like the duster ? Is it realy that good/reliable/comfortable and all that ?
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    I second an (older) Grand Vitara or a (newer) Jimny. Neither are fast but will do what you describe with ease.
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    Default Re: Advice on first car in SA

    Thank you all for the replies!

    It seems that there is broad consensus around three cars. What would you expect the yearly maintenance cost of these to be (keeping in mind that I will get a used version at ~200k)?
    • Renault Duster
    • Suzuki Jimny (which I must admit, my 23 year-old ego is not a fan of)
    • Suzuki Grand Vitara


    And in terms of actually needing the 4x4 capabilities:
    Would it make more sense to get a city car (e.g. Audi A5 w. 90,000km) and then rent a 4x4 for the infrequent overland trips?

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